The Pope is dead

araby · Post by **araby** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:08 pm

lol balloons, go figure

Diabolik · Post by **Diabolik** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:10 pm

Mindia wrote::balloons:

I'm shocked.

You fucking hypocrite.

mappatazee · Post by **mappatazee** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:18 pm

Samboa · Post by **Samboa** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:21 pm

Come on Mindia. . .even if you aren't Catholic you can still mourn the death of an important figure in the world. Don't be such an ass all the time.

Tadpole · Post by **Tadpole** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:27 pm

so what happens now

Post by **Ganzo** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:30 pm

Post by **Lyion** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:35 pm

President Bush on Saturday called Pope John Paul II "a faithful servant of God and a champion of human dignity and freedom."

"He is an inspiration to us all," Bush said in his weekly radio address. "Laura and I join millions of Americans and so many around the world who are praying for the Holy Father."

http://www.catholic-pages.com/pope/election.asp

Popes are elected by the College of Cardinals meeting in Conclave when the Apostolic See falls vacant.

Pope Paul VI significantly changed the rules for conclaves in 1975 when he promulgated the Apostolic Constitution Romano Pontifico Eligendo. He excluded all cardinals 80 years old or over from the conclave and made provision to prevent any bugging of the Sistine Chapel.

It was according to these rules that Albano Luciano, Patriarch of Venice, was elected Pope John Paul I and that a little over a month later, Karol Wojtyla, Cardinal Archbishop of Krakow, was elected Pope John Paul II.

Pope John Paul himself promulgated a whole new set of rules in 1996 in the Apostolic Constitution Universi Dominici Gregis.

He has not departed radically from the traditional structure. But he has made some significant changes:

* if no cardinal has been elected by two-thirds majority after a certain number of ballots, the cardinals may agree by absolute majority (half + 1) to elect the Pope by an absolute majority instead of a two-thirds majority
* rather than stay in uncomfortable, makeshift quarters in the Papal Palace, the Cardinals will stay in the Domus Sanctae Marthae, hotel-style accommodation in Vatican City
* the only remaining method of electing the Pope is by scrutiny, ie, silent ballot -- the methods of election by acclamation and by committee have been excluded (but were rarely used)
* the older cardinals are still unable to enter the conclave, but they are invited to take an active role in the preparatory meetings
* the rules on secrecy are tougher

The maximum number of Cardinal Electors allowed at any one time is 120. The Pope cannot raise more than 120 men under 80 to the Cardinalate at any one time. (Of course, being Pope, he can also dispense himself with compliance with that rule! On the last two occasions, the Pope named new cardinals soon after the number of electors fell below 120. There were as high as 135 electors at some stages.) As at April 2005, there are 117 Cardinals eligible to vote in Conclave.

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:29 pm

I heard that Nostradamus (spelling) predicted the Armageddon when the Pope dies. Start looking for signs!!!

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:47 pm

Kizzy wrote:I heard that Nostradamus (spelling) predicted the Armageddon when the Pope dies. Start looking for signs!!!

The signs are all about you. Hell we let Mindia, one of the four horsemen of the apocolypse back into NT. Let's see there is War, Famine, Ignorance, Death. Yup he is here among us.

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:50 pm

It is all myth. We build our own future. Stop putting all of your faith into books and put some if it into the power of God himself.

Trielelvan · Post by **Trielelvan** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:52 pm

Lyion wrote:"He is an inspiration to us all," Bush said in his weekly radio address. "Laura and I join millions of Americans and so many around the world who are praying for the Holy Father."

Er... since when was the Pope the "Holy Father?" I thought that title belonged to someone much higher up...

*shrug* anywho, R.I.P. Pope John Paul II.

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:56 pm

I know. I heard them say that on TV last night and I just shook my head. I have no doubt this was a loving man who was generous and spiritual and forgiving. But I believe it is shit like that , that can bring the shit down on us.

Langston · Post by **Langston** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:07 pm

The pope has been called the Holy Father for a long damn time. It's different than "God the Father"... but I wouldn't expect any of you to realize it.

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:27 pm

Ganzo wrote::boohoo:

Post by **Ganzo** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:33 pm

What, i'm playing Requiem in D minor by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:36 pm

Good choice! Such a somber piece. That Requiem Mass was very powerful. He wrote that right after his father's death.

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:38 pm

Tadpole wrote:so what happens now

So, now they choose another old fat bald guy to be the successor to Peter. After all, it's up to the Vatican on who gets the keys to heaven next... :teehee:

silly catholics

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:51 pm

Not to start a religious debate here, and I apologize if I do, but doesn't the Bible say not to worship false idols? Wouldn't the Pope be a false idol?

Post by **Lyion** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:05 pm

The pope isn't an idol, he's the head of the Church Peter started. You know, the guy Jesus said to: "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church" in Matthew 16:18.

Diabolik · Post by **Diabolik** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:41 pm

Everyone knows there's only one Idol.

<img src="http://www.legendheart.com/billy_idol.jpg">

Post by **Lyion** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:44 pm

In the midnight hour, she cried more, more, more!

Here's a site with some great info on JP II.

http://www.theanchoress.blogspot.com/

Rust · Post by **Rust** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:47 pm

Diabolik wrote:
Mindia wrote::balloons:

I'm shocked.

You fucking hypocrite.

Nonsense, the SDA thinks the pope is basically a sevant of Satan anyhow... what else would you expect?

--R.

Diabolik · Post by **Diabolik** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:47 pm

Mindia wrote:Good choice! Such a somber piece. That Requiem Mass was very powerful. He wrote that right after his father's death.

P.S. - Mozart was Catholic.