Deadly Immunity - Thimerosal Generation - Parents MUST READ

ClakarEQ · Post by **ClakarEQ** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:54 am

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0616-31.htm

http://www.detoxamin.com/index.asp?pgid=1773

This was a scary read for me having two childern that fall under this generation.

I'm curious to know what some of the folks here think about this. I'd comment more but it would just turn into flames with me being liberal and all.

Post by **Lueyen** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:15 am

If there is any validity to this, it's scary as hell. Strange that it has not been brought to more light, of course it's on the internet, so who knows. I mean just look at this... I've had people send it to me thinking it was legit.

http://www.dhmo.org/

ClakarEQ · Post by **ClakarEQ** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:20 am

The read that was linked to me was this one:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/ ... himerosal/

At the time I thought you had to have a user account (perhaps you do and mine is cached, not certain) but that is why I hadn't linked it.

Not saying it makes it more valid and it is a long read as the others are but those numbers / statistics are frightening.

Post by **Ganzo** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:32 am

It's not new, it's been known since 2000 that kids get overdosed on mercury in vacination shots in US, that is why this country now leading in chemical imbalance disorders. When you take your kids to do vacination, make sure mercury was not used as means of preservation in vacine. All you do is ask, if office don't have alternative, go to a diferent one.

I'm just surprised it's not more widely anounced here. If you think it's urban legend, look up cases where parents won lawsuits against US Gov over this issue

dammuzis · Post by **dammuzis** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:07 am

i did a paper on this in college... its an absolute known fact in medicine that vaccines with mercury cause autism.. its another money is more important then people scenario

Post by **Lyion** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:42 pm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8243264/

Its not proven for sure but there is a smoking gun.

I have a vested interest in this. I have a 12 year old with Autism.

Eziekial · Post by **Eziekial** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:02 pm

"...where we have the guys who are supposed to be protecting Americans` health who are actually conspiring to keep this stuff in the vaccines."

Yet, millions of Americans believe we need to put all our medicial resources in these same hands. That qoute from JFK, Jr. no less! God, the irony.

Goose_Man · Post by **Goose_Man** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:09 pm

I blame liberals

Trielelvan · Post by **Trielelvan** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:22 pm

I don't know how true all this information is, but while I was pregnant, I did an awful lot of research about it after reading an article at my in-law's. It is truly scary, but not unthinkable, that our own government would be allowing such a thing to happen.
I purposely waited until my son was a LOT older before he received any vaccinations specifically because of this.
I asked the doctors who gave the vaccinations and never got a straight answer. It was usually, "I don't know actually - we get them from blah blah blah." This is not one doctor - this is 15-20 between Minnesota and Nevada. NONE of them knew, and a few had never even heard about this.
I have met so many people with kids who have autism, and volunteered in a center for autistic children several years ago. It just seems unreal that THAT many kids have autism all coming from the same generation.

Lyion, you may want to read this. More information here as well:
Thimerosal FAQs
Generation Rescue

That last link is a parent-founded organization. They are really worth looking into.

Post by **Lyion** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:01 pm

Triel, I've read those sites as well as many, many others. I've read dozens of books since he was diagnosed at 4 and gone to seminars and talked to many professionals.

I'm lucky in that he's high functioning and mainstreamed. I've known many people to subject their kids to a variety of difficult things without any results, so I'm loathe to do anything with my son until I fully understand the procedure and the possible results. This is one of those things that looks good but often has no results and potential dangers. My son 'grows' daily and there is a light at the end of the tunnel for him. Based on feedback from his pediatric doctors and what I've read I'm not really in a rush to do this with him.

I do believe MMR, Vaccines, and other toxins contribute to Autism/ADD/etc. It irks me that our system would allow this.

Eviljonte · Post by **Eviljonte** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:03 am

I offer you this explantion

Vaccination and diagnose of these disorders happens at around the same age. The concensus in medicine is that vaccination is not the cause. What we do know is without vaccination the situation gets a whole lot worse. In the western world polio is almost extinct. Ever meet anyone who had polio as a child? Ever been to a country where polio still runs amok?

So I think till we know for sure more is to be gained from vaccination than not doing it.

Vaccination is tricky from an individual perspective. It dosen´t usually benefit one child but rather the population. The numbers for polio is something around 80% need to be immune for the illness to be held at bay (not sure of the exact number but it would be easy to find). In sweden where I live we´ve had the same debate about 5 years ago but it´s been more quiet recently (no big money lawsuits here though)

Post by **Ganzo** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:16 am

Kids in ex USSR now Russia, get same amount of vacination, actualy more since you guys don't get antrax vacine and we do. However mercury is not used as method of preservation on vacines there. Now look at amount of chemical imbalance and autism cases there.

Post by **Lyion** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:22 am

And that's the difference, EJ. From 89 to 2000ish our vaccines bombarded infants and newborns with ludicrous amounts of mercury via thimerosal.

Nobody is saying to not vaccinate. We are just pissed that Drug companies and the Government allows an Autism/ADD Epidemic from allowing something like this that common sense would dictate is unhealthy. If it's too high a mercury amount for a 250 pound man, maybe we shouldn't be giving it to an infant?

ClakarEQ · Post by **ClakarEQ** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:34 am

I agree with you Lyion.

I love my kids to death, they are my life, at the same time I now feel they will never be able to live up to what their potential could have been. My boys are 4 and 7. I worry for what will happen when they and there generation are 20, then 30, etc.

I look at this almost like a condoned mental genocide. It fuels me to the extreme of posting here, sending e-mails to nearly everyone I know with kids or thinking about having children. I'm half tempted to put signs up with URLS to the article at every street corner.