OK, no more arguing, we KNOW the worst NFL team

[Xaiveir]

Im amazed that this is even being argued. It shows pure ignorance, or stupidity, or both.

Yes the 49ers are the worse team by FAR in the NFL. However, they would still own ANY top college team.

The NFL is so far and above the college game its scary, hence why very very very few people actually go to the NFL, let alone star.

The NFL defenses, run so many different looks on defense, that college quarterbacks have never seen before. That is why almost ALL quarterbacks that come out of college have alot of problems their first couple of years. It takes that long to get used to how defenses will approach them. An example of this is Eli manning this year. He was a star in college, top ranked quarterback, first man taken in the draft, brother of Peyton, son of Archie. Yet he still looks like he has the deer in the headlights look when he plays. The only exception has been Roethesburger, yet even he hasnt been steller. He has been the product of the best running game in the NFL, and having a great core of recievers around him.

The NFL speed of the game that you have heard of is the real deal. Everyone that makes the jump describes it as the game being played fast forward on the VCR. You litterly have less than a second to decide what to do with the ball, wich hole to hit, who to block, who is blitzing, what coverage you are looking at, what route the recievers run.

In college, players are still developing, getting stronger. In the NFL they are all there, they have the BEST training rooms, better film study, more scouts, better trainers, better coaches. NFL players make a living on football, they do it year round. College you have way to many other things to deal with other than football.

Even the worst pro players are still there for a reason. THEY ARE PROS. They dont just take any tom, dick or harry off the street to play. They are there, because they are the best of the best (even if they are the worst).

College players just are not fast enough, big enough, smart enough, or strong enough to hold Pro players Jocks. Even if there are acouple of *POTTENTIAL* nfl players on the team.


The comments on Jerry Rice not being able to stay healthy in this league now is laughable as well. Nobody trained harder, or kept in better shape in the history of the league. He is the best player the NFL ever. At 42 he is still playing this game when 35 is about time to start retiring. Teams are not just keeping him around because he is jerry rice, they have him because he can still play.

Ive personally played basketball at a D2 lvl, football at D2 and semi pro, baseball at D2, semi pro, independant pro, and Professional. I know what im talking about on this one. It carries over to every sport. There are afew exceptions that come along every so often, but no college team could ever beat a pro team.

[Malluas]

i am talkin about rice if he came in NOW.. not how he is right now. I am talking if he was in this upcoming class of college players.

[Xaiveir]

i am talkin about rice if he came in NOW.. not how he is right now. I am talking if he was in this upcoming class of college players.

The comments on Jerry Rice not being able to stay healthy in this league now is laughable as well. Nobody trained harder, or kept in better shape in the history of the league.

I know what you were trying to say Mallues. My statement above was in reference to that. However let me elaborate. My statement meant, that Jerry would succeed because of his work ethic.

Now let me elaborate more for you....


Jerry Rice, if he was coming out of college right now would still succeed. You may be too young to remember how Rice was when he first started playing. Think Moss/TO and then some. Rice was, and still is the best Route runner in league history. He was the reason they started the RAC (Run after catch)statistic in the NFL. To say that he would not succeed in todays game coming out of college shows your lack of knowledge of football. Plus he had the best set of handss in his prime than any receiver in todays game.

So yes, Rice would still have had the success that he had now as he did then. Go watch some footage of him back in the day.

[10sun]

Browns are still the worst, don't kid yourselves and don't try to argue that.

-Adam

[Phlegm]

when Rice first started in the league, he dropped a lot of balls. I remember watching the some of the games and the announcers would say if this kid can hang onto the ball, he would be a great receiver. Rice obviously learned how to hang onto the ball.

[Arlos]

Not to take anything away from Rice, who I believe IS the best receiver ever in the NFL, and if not the greatest PLAYER ever, certainly in the top 5, but a big chunk of his numbers can be partly explained by the fact that he spent most of his productive years with not one, but TWO Hall of Fame quarterbacks. One of them the greatest ever (Montana), and Young was pretty damn amazing as well. Also, the 49ers of the 80s were one of the most dominant ever, partly because no one had as yet figured out a real counter to the Walsh offense.

I wish I had tape of some of those old 49ers seasons, that was some really really beautiful football. That dismantling of the Broncos in the 89 superbowl was probably one of the most one-sided games played ever in the league.

Having a history like that, while having the shit sandwich that has been the 49ers for the past few years, makes it all the more bitter. And I have ZERO faith that it will ever get better as long as York owns it. I fear the 49ers are doomed to be the Clippers of the NFL.

-Arlos

[Phlegm]

You meant the Warriors right Arlos? The Clippers already kicked their asses 3 times this season.

[vonkaar]

You could also argue that both Montana and Young were great BECAUSE of Rice...

[Mop]

Both QB's had OUTSTANDING wepons to use Roger Craig, Brent Jones, John Taylor, Jerry Rice for montana and Young had Ricky Williams, Wesley walls for a bit, JJ stokes ( he was ok at best ) I am forgetting people here I know but both I think were great QB's made even better by their surroundings. Rice made the entire offense better by becoming the defensive focus, he was great because he made everyone else around him better by creating focus on him.

[vonkaar]

I say that Rice is the 2nd most important player in the history of the game...

I also think that Young is grossly underrated - as far as 'history' remembers him anyway. He was fucking amazing.

[Mop]

Young was awesome in my mind for a couple major reasons.

He relearned his position and became a good QB, he had some happy feet for a long time. Every Kordell Stewart that comes along reminds me of that.

He was able to create something from nothing in the pocket and out of the pocket.

lastly he never combed his hair.

np

[vonkaar]

Also, he's the last living direct descendant of Brigham Young. He also didn't start playing football til his senior year in HS.

He dated supermodels...

He wanted to play more than anything... concussions be damned!

[Xaiveir]

Both QB's had OUTSTANDING wepons to use Roger Craig, Brent Jones, John Taylor, Jerry Rice for montana and Young had Ricky Williams, Wesley walls for a bit, JJ stokes ( he was ok at best ) I am forgetting people here I know but both I think were great QB's made even better by their surroundings. Rice made the entire offense better by becoming the defensive focus, he was great because he made everyone else around him better by creating focus on him.

He had Rickey Waters not Rickey WIlliams hehe. The 1994 team that Young led to the super bowl was 1 of the top 3 teams of all time imho. Rice,John Taylor, Rickey WATERS, William Floyd, Brent Jones, Ed Mcaferty just on Offense.

That superbowl where they dismantled the chargers was beautiful. I remember the announcers saying on a 60 yard young-rice touchdown.

"Where were the safty's on that play, they were just standing there looking like they were waiting for an autograph from Rice as he ran by."

[Lyion]

Young was insanely intelligent, had good arm strength, ran a 4.4 40, and had a great work ethic. The guy's a freakin lawyer, as well as having dated supermodels.

He's probably the most underrated QB in history since he started in Tampa and ended up holding a clipboard for Montana for years.

Montana's 49ers had a much more potent D. Youngs relied more on him, and their D was much more porous.

Every time I see a snickers commercial I still think of Steve Young, aka Batman.