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The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 9:35 am

pally, necro, cleric in undead camps

bard, wizzy, pally otherwise

Tacks · Post by **Tacks** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 9:39 am

whatever

Drunnken · Post by **Drunnken** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 10:30 am

8 clerics and 1 warrior he'll never die irl LOLZ

(some of these groups really suck

examples: no slow or a way to nullify attacks
.................no fucking healer, get real
.................some of these groups are no DC pet = fucked)

the totally solid 6 man would be tank, puller, healer, slower, DPS, DPS

so if you wanted a completely solid 4 man take the two DPS off

if you want a DPS group get a bunch of time equipped fags and jack off into an empty tuna can

this shit is still about how good each player is, not what class they are

PS - i'd love to watch a 6 mage group get mega owned for having no way to heal or slow (can they even target other people's pet with 1200 point heal that takes 7 seconds?), better hope they all have a second pet on hold

Aurind · Post by **Aurind** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:15 am

Paladin, cleric, rogue

Paldin, cleric, rogue, rogue

like someone else above said.. keep adding rogues

Aurind

brinstar · Post by **brinstar** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:33 am

Drunnken wrote:the totally solid 6 man would be tank, puller, healer, slower, DPS, DPS

so if you wanted a completely solid 4 man take the two DPS off

right, and you can boil it down even further:

tank/puller = sk
healer/slower = shm

Tacks · Post by **Tacks** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:36 am

add DPS plz~ Rog

Post by **Lyion** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:04 pm

brinstar wrote:
Drunnken wrote:the totally solid 6 man would be tank, puller, healer, slower, DPS, DPS

so if you wanted a completely solid 4 man take the two DPS off

right, and you can boil it down even further:

tank/puller = sk
healer/slower = shm

A good Beastlord can tank and slow.

I'd argue a Beast/Cleric > SK/Warrior by far.

A LOT more HPs from buffs, Beast Pet for a lot more DPS. 65% slow from BL, and he/she can keep aggro.

The cleric heals much, much better than the Shaman, has buffs that stack with the Beasts. You are VERY limited by a Shaman healing.

My Optimal 4 person group would be a BL, Cleric, bard, Rogue. A good BL will keep aggro off the rogue.
My Optimal 6 Person group would be a Warrior, BL, Cleric, bard, 2 Rogues.

Again, there are many good group setups, and in the end it depends more on the player than the class.

Enchanter/Bard are interchangeable, pretty much.
Warrior/SK/Paladin are interchangeable.
BL/Shaman are interchangeable, but I prefer a BL.
Rogue/Wizard are interchangeable

The best exp group I've been in this go around consisted of a Bard, Cleric, 2 Beastlords, Mage, Necromancer. Everything died fast, the Bard pulled nonstop, and the cleric and BLS were consistently full mana.

Drunnken · Post by **Drunnken** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:08 pm

i'd say shaman healing is limited, but not VERY limited

i've healed BoT groups that chain pulled by myself for hours and stayed 50m+ the whole time, well timed quiescence is a beautiful thing, and we have slow ass cheal and fast decent heal

the time when the tank dies is while we're slowing, so it's smart to Q right before the pull, that method i'd say there's no limited about it

yes our dps sucks =(

Langston · Post by **Langston** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:29 pm

It's not so much that shaman DPS sucks, it's that we can't do our DPS without taking agro. The agro modifier on our poison dots is stupidly high. Last time I actually calculated it (back in VT on named) I was doing over 200 DPS... I wouldn't say that "sucks"... but it's not consistent and definitely not sustainable in a TYPICAL exp group without the shaman dieing lots and lots.

Drunnken · Post by **Drunnken** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:04 pm

lol yeah my dps when i solo is great

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:13 pm

Taxx wrote:add DPS plz~ Rog

Oh, add a rogue to the fourth to either of mine. But, a rogue who actually does DPS, not Taxx's rogue.

Tacks · Post by **Tacks** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:41 pm

She was good 2 years ago, I swear.

Jennay · Post by **Jennay** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:21 pm

She really was

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:25 pm

hmmmmmmmm

pally enc dru

enc dru war cle

enc dru wiz rog cle war

i dunno..what was the question?

Jirig · Post by **Jirig** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:52 pm

Rithoros wrote:war/cle/druid/enc/rog

I find your lack of shm disturbing.

Thommus · Post by **Thommus** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:18 am

3 man in PoV that works well:

Shaman = Heals, Slows, Tank
Ranger = DPS, puller
Rogue = DPS

That group will kill moderately fast at WW/EW, a good shammy wont run oom for a while, and it works out to about 3% AA exp per kill at 65.
For a four man group, add more DPS, or get a real tank and go somewhere with harder mobs for more Exp.

Metranon · Post by **Metranon** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:30 am

people who haven't played EQ in over 2 years arguing about the best group is funny stuff

Tae-Bo · Post by **Tae-Bo** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:32 am

Metranon wrote:people who haven't played EQ in over 2 years arguing about the best group is funny stuff

shm and sk in chardok, bitch

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:58 am

Chardok? I can solo chardok. Who the hell needs a partner?

Metranon · Post by **Metranon** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:08 am

we killed king and queen with 1 group back in early PoP

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:13 am

That's fun shit.

Drem · Post by **Drem** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:39 am

shm shd nec

shm shd nec hanah

Caemien · Post by **Caemien** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:45 pm

Best 3-4 person group?

Any combination of 4 wizards/druids all grouped and quad kiting tables in fire.

lauranthala · Post by **lauranthala** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:00 pm

Any combination of 4 wizards/druids all grouped and quad kiting tables in fire.

Clearly you should have a ranger in this group as well sponging exp, err- in case of emergency. Yeah, that's it.

Shannan · Post by **Shannan** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 2:31 am

2 wiz, chanter, pally
If you get the right pally of course :wink:

or

Wiz, druid, mage, beastlord

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