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by **liquidstayce** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:25 pm

by **Martrae** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:31 pm

Hmmm....did it actually work or was it another fad?

by **Gypsiyee** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:07 pm

I went from 200 lbs to 140 in a summer using a product that had ephedra in it.. I'd say it was pretty effective.

I'm of the opinion that the people who died from it were junkies. Too much of anything can kill you - I don't think the drug should be blamed for it. If you over-consume any of the "WOW EPHEDRA FREE!!!1!!!!1one!!!" diet pills out there now, I'm pretty certain it would have the same effect.

People just can't use discretion and sense and over-use thinking it'll make some miracle - that's wherein the problem lies, imo.

by **Martrae** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:16 pm

Well, they said 155 deaths out of 12 million users. Not terrifically high death rate IMO.

by **Harrison** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:20 pm

Nope, not at all...

by **LostCause** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:00 pm

The link worked for me

by **Drem** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:29 pm

yeah, you do lose a good deal of weight because you never want to eat... ephedrine is what amphetamine is a synthesis of, so you might as well just go buy your friend's adderall or some meth (dirty adderall) if you wanna lose weight that bad

by **xKALECx** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:02 pm

Martrae wrote:Well, they said 155 deaths out of 12 million users. Not terrifically high death rate IMO.

I really don't believe it since we had 4 accounted deaths in my E.R. alone.......

by **Martrae** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:07 pm

Kalec that avatar stirs me in ways I really enjoy...

by **Gidan** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:15 pm

If the numbers are correct. a 0.001% death rate really is nothing. even if 0.01% of the users ODed on it, then only 0.1% of them would have died from it. Granted I am sure the numbers are off to some extent.

Personally I dont see a problem with people taking it in moderation. I personally always prefer the good eating habbits and a good exercise program to any drug.

by **Drem** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:25 pm

lol yeah you don't really have any eating habits when you're on stimulants

by **Eziekial** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:04 pm

I took a pre-ephedra ban stacker 2 one night and drink like 30 guinness and it was a beautiful thing. I wasn't tired and I didn't have a hangover the next day. I'm all for this!

by **Gypsiyee** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:30 pm

Drem wrote:lol yeah you don't really have any eating habits when you're on stimulants

I'm going to have to disagree, Drem.. when I was taking it, I was still eating. It isn't like I stopped all together and was doped out all the time. I ate generally 3 times a day - I had to or I was completely drained. I worked full time and was playing on 2 softball teams.. can't just stop eating when you do that.

by **liquidstayce** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:12 pm

most deaths related to it from what I have read is dumbasses taking 5 pills then going and doing some very high intensity stuff.

I used it in highschool and college a lot.

by **Harrison** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:17 pm

I can tell you no one would be buying adderall anymore...

Adderall is wonderful when you NEED to stay awake and know you can't.

by **araby** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:57 pm

adderall is kiddy coke

by **Diabolik** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:07 pm

The ephedra plant is the best candidate for the "secret ingredient" of soma.

by **The Kizzy** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:36 pm

I think it was ephedra, so here is a story.

My parents were prescribed this back in the late 80's early 90's (I think). Both of my parents are very large people. My Dad lost so much weight, and in a 6 month period, that he looked like a totally different person. People would ask him if he had surgery done or something. He took the pills exactly as described. My mom too. He still ate the same, but not as much. After it was banned, the weight came right back. It does work, and if taken as prescribed there should be very little side effects.

by **veeneedefeesh** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:09 pm

Ephedra makes your scalp crawl :ugh:

by **brinstar** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:28 pm

so do republicans

ban them!

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