Schiavo Autopsy Shows Massive Brain Damage

[Gidan]

Make no mistake... Arlos and Mop do not have the best interest of America in mind. They both have demonstrated that repeatedly. They care more about a minority opinion than what is better for the greater good of society. That kind of tunnel vision is dangerous. And that same tunnel vision is what steers me away from the democratic party, and any other left-leaning organization. Short-sightedness is a classic characteristic of the democrats.

Just about everyone has the best interests of the country in mind. Just becasue you disagree whats in the best intrest of the country doesn't mean they dont believe that it is.

Being short sighted is not a problem the democrats are afflicted with. Its something jsut about every polotician is.

[Rust]

Make no mistake... Arlos and Mop do not have the best interest of America in mind. They both have demonstrated that repeatedly. They care more about a minority opinion than what is better for the greater good of society. That kind of tunnel vision is dangerous. And that same tunnel vision is what steers me away from the democratic party, and any other left-leaning organization. Short-sightedness is a classic characteristic of the democrats.

I'm confused here, is he echoing Tailgunner Joe or Lenin here?

It could be either.

--R.

[Narrock]

Make no mistake... Arlos and Mop do not have the best interest of America in mind. They both have demonstrated that repeatedly. They care more about a minority opinion than what is better for the greater good of society. That kind of tunnel vision is dangerous. And that same tunnel vision is what steers me away from the democratic party, and any other left-leaning organization. Short-sightedness is a classic characteristic of the democrats.

I'm confused here, is he echoing Tailgunner Joe or Lenin here?

It could be either.

--R.

I echo nobody. That is called logic and qualitative/deductive reasoning... a concept which you obviously have difficulty grasping. Allow me to dumb it down for you... If you believe that gay marriage, abortion, and removal of all religious slogans from public buildings/schools, etc. is for the greater good of society then that clearly demonstrates that you are completely out of touch with reality and you do not know what the majority of Americans want. What the majority of Americans want is EQUAL to what the greater good of American society is. I wouldn't expect a socialist-educated canuck to understand that anyway.

[Yamori]

So if the majority's desire was FOR abortion, seperation of church and state, and gay marriage, you would have no problems with it?

Oh thats right, doing whats right is more important than just going along with the herd.

[Narrock]

It's "separation," not "seperation." Your question is dismissed on the grounds of irrelevance. The majority will never go along with gay marriage and other leftist philosophies as an acceptable social standard, so your point is moot.

[mappatazee]

cop out

[brinstar]

"never" is a pretty strong word to use there. i'm sure there are people that said "women will NEVER be able to vote" or "a free black man? preposterous! it'll never happen!"

before you jump on my case for comparing the gay marriage issue with women's sufferage or slavery, skip it-- that's not my point. my point is: you can't predict this country's future any better than those other schmucks could.

[Narrock]

Yes I can, and I did.

[Narrock]

cop out

Another truth-hater. lol

[Yamori]

If you think what is right has never been directly against what the majority wanted, you don't know anything about history.

And yes, that was a total cop out.

The majority DOES want gay marriage and abortion and sepAration(happy?) of church and state in some European countries. It could very well happen here in a decade or two. Would you go along with it if you lived there, or stand your ground based on what you believed was right?

[Gidan]

Make no mistake... Arlos and Mop do not have the best interest of America in mind. They both have demonstrated that repeatedly. They care more about a minority opinion than what is better for the greater good of society. That kind of tunnel vision is dangerous. And that same tunnel vision is what steers me away from the democratic party, and any other left-leaning organization. Short-sightedness is a classic characteristic of the democrats.

I'm confused here, is he echoing Tailgunner Joe or Lenin here?

It could be either.

--R.

I echo nobody. That is called logic and qualitative/deductive reasoning... a concept which you obviously have difficulty grasping. Allow me to dumb it down for you... If you believe that gay marriage, abortion, and removal of all religious slogans from public buildings/schools, etc. is for the greater good of society then that clearly demonstrates that you are completely out of touch with reality and you do not know what the majority of Americans want. What the majority of Americans want is EQUAL to what the greater good of American society is. I wouldn't expect a socialist-educated canuck to understand that anyway.

So you bring up 3 things that are ways of controling people. The people are agianst Gay marrage because its been drilled into their heads that gays are evil for so long that many still believe it. Many are against abortion becasue they want to show their domination over others and how they can controle what you can or cannot do wiht your own body. People want religiousslogans in schools so they can push religion on the children early before they start getting old enough to question.

Gay marrrage is for the greater good of the people, how exactly does allowing gays to marry hurt you or anyone? Abortion is for the greater good of america, we already have to many damn people, too many parents who shouldn't be parents, too many children who grow up in hell becasue their parents didn't want them. You are fine with making the life of a child hell as long as you can keep your domination over women. Finally, how is it hurting you if there are no religious slogans in schools? Does it stop you from believing your religion, is it stopping you from warshiping at home or in church or hell on the street. All it does is stop you from forcing it on people.

If you consider the greater good to be controle over people, I very much disagree with you and thing you are about the greater good of you and not the people.

[Narrock]

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[Narrock]

Make no mistake... Arlos and Mop do not have the best interest of America in mind. They both have demonstrated that repeatedly. They care more about a minority opinion than what is better for the greater good of society. That kind of tunnel vision is dangerous. And that same tunnel vision is what steers me away from the democratic party, and any other left-leaning organization. Short-sightedness is a classic characteristic of the democrats.

I'm confused here, is he echoing Tailgunner Joe or Lenin here?

It could be either.

--R.

I echo nobody. That is called logic and qualitative/deductive reasoning... a concept which you obviously have difficulty grasping. Allow me to dumb it down for you... If you believe that gay marriage, abortion, and removal of all religious slogans from public buildings/schools, etc. is for the greater good of society then that clearly demonstrates that you are completely out of touch with reality and you do not know what the majority of Americans want. What the majority of Americans want is EQUAL to what the greater good of American society is. I wouldn't expect a socialist-educated canuck to understand that anyway.

So you bring up 3 things that are ways of controling people. The people are agianst Gay marrage because its been drilled into their heads that gays are evil for so long that many still believe it. Many are against abortion becasue they want to show their domination over others and how they can controle what you can or cannot do wiht your own body. People want religiousslogans in schools so they can push religion on the children early before they start getting old enough to question.

Gay marrrage is for the greater good of the people, how exactly does allowing gays to marry hurt you or anyone? Abortion is for the greater good of america, we already have to many damn people, too many parents who shouldn't be parents, too many children who grow up in hell becasue their parents didn't want them. You are fine with making the life of a child hell as long as you can keep your domination over women. Finally, how is it hurting you if there are no religious slogans in schools? Does it stop you from believing your religion, is it stopping you from warshiping at home or in church or hell on the street. All it does is stop you from forcing it on people.

If you consider the greater good to be controle over people, I very much disagree with you and thing you are about the greater good of you and not the people.

You are quoting your opinions, not facts. Nice post though.

[Narrock]

If you think what is right has never been directly against what the majority wanted, you don't know anything about history.

And yes, that was a total cop out.

The majority DOES want gay marriage and abortion and sepAration(happy?) of church and state in some European countries. It could very well happen here in a decade or two. Would you go along with it if you lived there, or stand your ground based on what you believed was right?

A. Ok history professor, enlighten me on what wasn't right that has never been directly against what the majority wanted. Ever heard of Hitler? German people went along with the program because THEY HAD TO, NOT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO. The majority of Americans wanted us to go to war with Saddam Hussein, and that was right too. The majority of Americans supported the war in Vietnam. The majority of Americans supported dropping 2 nukes on Japan. So WTF are you talking about? Let's hear this great history lesson you have to teach me. Show me in history where America, not some obscure third-world rat-infested country, did something that was AGAINST what the majority wanted yet was still considered "right."

B. No, what I said earlier was absolutely not a copout... not even in the slightest. The majority of Americans will never accept homosexual marriage as a social standard.

C. I don't give a rat's fat hairy ass what the Eurotrash countries think right now. Many of them are under liberal/socialist/labor party rule, so of course their opinions are going to be jaded. /Wave Germany (Schroeder); /wave England (Blair); /wave France (Chirac), etc. Pretty soon they will come around. Schroeder is rapidly losing popularity in Germany. The whole world is going to start to turn conservative again... just give it some time.

[Gidan]

Ok mr english god, rewrite the first sentence so it makes a little sence more sence.

Are you asking what a nation has done that was agianst the majority? Or are you asking what has a nation done that was wrong that the majority was for?

[Rust]

B. No, what I said earlier was absolutely not a copout... not even in the slightest. The majority of Americans will never accept interracial marriage as a social standard.

Fixt.

--R.

[labbats]

I was going to argue with Mindia, but then I found a convenient wall to blather to.

[Yamori]

A. Ok history professor, enlighten me on what wasn't right that has never been directly against what the majority wanted. Ever heard of Hitler? German people went along with the program because THEY HAD TO, NOT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO. The majority of Americans wanted us to go to war with Saddam Hussein, and that was right too. The majority of Americans supported the war in Vietnam. The majority of Americans supported dropping 2 nukes on Japan. So WTF are you talking about? Let's hear this great history lesson you have to teach me. Show me in history where America, not some obscure third-world rat-infested country, did something that was AGAINST what the majority wanted yet was still considered "right."

The majority of the south wanted slavery, wanted to ban interracial marriage, wanted to keep blacks segregated, and wanted to stop black people from voting. Under your bizarre system of right and wrong, the north should have let them be because thats what their majority wanted.

Good enough an example for you?

B. No, what I said earlier was absolutely not a copout... not even in the slightest. The majority of Americans will never accept homosexual marriage as a social standard.

You refuse to answer the question (if circumstances were different, would you support WHAT IS RIGHT over WHAT THE MAJORITY WANTS?) directly and instead go on tangents. You are copping out.

C. I don't give a rat's fat hairy ass what the Eurotrash countries think right now. Many of them are under liberal/socialist/labor party rule, so of course their opinions are going to be jaded. /Wave Germany (Schroeder); /wave England (Blair); /wave France (Chirac), etc. Pretty soon they will come around. Schroeder is rapidly losing popularity in Germany. The whole world is going to start to turn conservative again... just give it some time.

I didn't ask what you thought of Europe's opinions (because, with few exceptions, I also think Europe is making a lot of mistakes with the idiocy of socialism), I asked what you would do and think if you were born there. Their majorities are DIFFERENT from what your view of right and wrong is. Would you stand your ground and support what you thought was right, or agree with them?

[Arlos]

Heh, you know, I couldn't make Mindia look as big an idiot as he makes him look all by himself, so what'd be the point of pointing out his idiocies, since they're immediately obvious to everyone?

Just one small point, for example: Every single public opinion survey on abortion shows that it's supported by the majority of the populace, actually running at 60-70% numbers.

-Arlos

[xaoshaen]

Heh, you know, I couldn't make Mindia look as big an idiot as he makes him look all by himself, so what'd be the point of pointing out his idiocies, since they're immediately obvious to everyone?

Just one small point, for example: Every single public opinion survey on abortion shows that it's supported by the majority of the populace, actually running at 60-70% numbers.

-Arlos

While I fully agree that Mindia has a ridiculously overblown opinion of his own abilities, opinion surveys on abortion vary radically depending on the phraseology employed and the time it was taken.

[Rust]

While I fully agree that Mindia has a ridiculously overblown opinion of his own abilities, opinion surveys on abortion vary radically depending on the phraseology employed and the time it was taken.

Oh yeah.

'Do you support abortion on demand' would never score 60%.

'Do you support abortion with restrictions' probably does.

In the US anyhow. Wealthy women could always go someone more sane and have a safe legal abortion anyhow even if the God Squad GOPers banned it.

--R.

[Narrock]

A. Ok history professor, enlighten me on what wasn't right that has never been directly against what the majority wanted. Ever heard of Hitler? German people went along with the program because THEY HAD TO, NOT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO. The majority of Americans wanted us to go to war with Saddam Hussein, and that was right too. The majority of Americans supported the war in Vietnam. The majority of Americans supported dropping 2 nukes on Japan. So WTF are you talking about? Let's hear this great history lesson you have to teach me. Show me in history where America, not some obscure third-world rat-infested country, did something that was AGAINST what the majority wanted yet was still considered "right."

The majority of the south wanted slavery, wanted to ban interracial marriage, wanted to keep blacks segregated, and wanted to stop black people from voting. Under your bizarre system of right and wrong, the north should have let them be because thats what their majority wanted.

Good enough an example for you?

B. No, what I said earlier was absolutely not a copout... not even in the slightest. The majority of Americans will never accept homosexual marriage as a social standard.

You refuse to answer the question (if circumstances were different, would you support WHAT IS RIGHT over WHAT THE MAJORITY WANTS?) directly and instead go on tangents. You are copping out.

C. I don't give a rat's fat hairy ass what the Eurotrash countries think right now. Many of them are under liberal/socialist/labor party rule, so of course their opinions are going to be jaded. /Wave Germany (Schroeder); /wave England (Blair); /wave France (Chirac), etc. Pretty soon they will come around. Schroeder is rapidly losing popularity in Germany. The whole world is going to start to turn conservative again... just give it some time.

I didn't ask what you thought of Europe's opinions (because, with few exceptions, I also think Europe is making a lot of mistakes with the idiocy of socialism), I asked what you would do and think if you were born there. Their majorities are DIFFERENT from what your view of right and wrong is. Would you stand your ground and support what you thought was right, or agree with them?

You just proved my point Yamori, yet you don't even see it. THE SOUTH wanted this and the SOUTH wanted that... blah blah blah. The SOUTH was not equal to what the country as a whole wanted. Copout? LOL, no. Your boat just sunk to the bottom of Davy Jones' locker.

You , Arlos, Gidan, Rust, and the rest of your ilk all subscribe to the same puerile points of view, thus giving yourselves a strong support network... /snooze So, lauding yourselves as victorious in any thread is completely laughable.

[Narrock]

Heh, you know, I couldn't make Mindia look as big an idiot as he makes him look all by himself, so what'd be the point of pointing out his idiocies, since they're immediately obvious to everyone?

Just one small point, for example: Every single public opinion survey on abortion shows that it's supported by the majority of the populace, actually running at 60-70% numbers.

-Arlos

lol you're such a dork

[brinstar]

So, lauding yourselves as victorious in any thread is completely laughable.

more people on this board disagree with you than agree with you

by your logic, that makes you wrong

thx drive thru

[Yamori]

So, lauding yourselves as victorious in any thread is completely laughable.

more people on this board disagree with you than agree with you

by your logic, that makes you wrong

thx drive thru

Karl Mal-OWNED