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Postby Arlos » Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:47 am

Mindia has still failed to grasp the simple fact that what that organization did is ILLEGAL. They broke the law. Period. They took government money, and federal statute states that any organization receiving government money is not allowed to discriminate based on sex, race or religion. So, Mindia, you support the flouting of federal law now? Am I hearing you right?

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Postby Gypsiyee » Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:55 am

If SDA's teach what you preach and believe themselves to be the only worthwhile religion, they most certainly do NOT represent the best form of church and what the bible teaches us - from YOUR example, they do exactly the opposite.

You, sir, are the only bitter one here. Anyone who disagrees with you is a cultist, a catholic, a liberal, or a buddhist, according to you. You're a friggin psychopath.

You also still never clarified why you're applauding - the only thing you've said is you're applauding because the "cultists" are the ones being punished, but refuse to look at both sides of that coin and see how the children are going to suffer. If you applaud one side, you applaud the other - you can't have it both ways.

Also, are you missing that it's illegal what they did? Why is it that if one person breaks the law, they're a liberal propaganda spewing cultist, but if someone breaks the law that just happens to agree with your fucked up beliefs it's all the sudden a-ok?

You damn hypocrite, they should re-legalize tarring and feathering for people like you.
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Postby Zanchief » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:19 am

Gypsiyee wrote:they should re-legalize tarring and feathering for people like you.


How about murder?
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Postby Gypsiyee » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:29 am

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Postby Narrock » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:38 am

Gypsiyee wrote:If SDA's teach what you preach and believe themselves to be the only worthwhile religion, they most certainly do NOT represent the best form of church and what the bible teaches us - from YOUR example, they do exactly the opposite.

You, sir, are the only bitter one here. Anyone who disagrees with you is a cultist, a catholic, a liberal, or a buddhist, according to you. You're a friggin psychopath.

You also still never clarified why you're applauding - the only thing you've said is you're applauding because the "cultists" are the ones being punished, but refuse to look at both sides of that coin and see how the children are going to suffer. If you applaud one side, you applaud the other - you can't have it both ways.

Also, are you missing that it's illegal what they did? Why is it that if one person breaks the law, they're a liberal propaganda spewing cultist, but if someone breaks the law that just happens to agree with your fucked up beliefs it's all the sudden a-ok?

You damn hypocrite, they should re-legalize tarring and feathering for people like you.


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Postby Narrock » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:42 am

Arlos wrote:Mindia has still failed to grasp the simple fact that what that organization did is ILLEGAL. They broke the law. Period. They took government money, and federal statute states that any organization receiving government money is not allowed to discriminate based on sex, race or religion. So, Mindia, you support the flouting of federal law now? Am I hearing you right?

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Think of it this way... when you walk into certain restaurants and bars some of them have a sign on the front door that says, "WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYBODY."

Just think of it in those terms. I applaud Betheny for standing up for Christian beliefs and denying cultists access to adopting a child from their agency. If that cathocultist couple got refused, then maybe they should go to ANOTHER FREAKIN ADOPTION AGENCY. It's pretty simple math.
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Postby Xaiveir » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:53 am

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Arlos wrote:Mindia has still failed to grasp the simple fact that what that organization did is ILLEGAL. They broke the law. Period. They took government money, and federal statute states that any organization receiving government money is not allowed to discriminate based on sex, race or religion. So, Mindia, you support the flouting of federal law now? Am I hearing you right?

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Think of it this way... when you walk into certain restaurants and bars some of them have a sign on the front door that says, "WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYBODY."

Just think of it in those terms. I applaud Betheny for standing up for Christian beliefs and denying cultists access to adopting a child from their agency. If that cathocultist couple got refused, then maybe they should go to ANOTHER FREAKIN ADOPTION AGENCY. It's pretty simple math.



There is a difference there. Those restaurants are privately owned. They do not have any state funding. Therefore they may come up with any rules, that do not violate segragation laws, among afew others.

The adoption agency IS state funded, so they do not have the right to refuse service unless they have determined that the would be parents are not fit to raise a child.. There was no good reason why these people were denied (and no religion is not a good reason).

The agency will be sued, and will be found guilty on this one like it or not.
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Postby Xaiveir » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:55 am

Excuse me(correcting something in my last post) religion is not a viable reason no matter what you may think. If roles were reversed, and a christian couple had been denied, you would be screaming bloody murder about it.
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Postby Gypsiyee » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:57 am

Mindia wrote:
Gypsiyee wrote:If SDA's teach what you preach and believe themselves to be the only worthwhile religion, they most certainly do NOT represent the best form of church and what the bible teaches us - from YOUR example, they do exactly the opposite.

You, sir, are the only bitter one here. Anyone who disagrees with you is a cultist, a catholic, a liberal, or a buddhist, according to you. You're a friggin psychopath.

You also still never clarified why you're applauding - the only thing you've said is you're applauding because the "cultists" are the ones being punished, but refuse to look at both sides of that coin and see how the children are going to suffer. If you applaud one side, you applaud the other - you can't have it both ways.

Also, are you missing that it's illegal what they did? Why is it that if one person breaks the law, they're a liberal propaganda spewing cultist, but if someone breaks the law that just happens to agree with your fucked up beliefs it's all the sudden a-ok?

You damn hypocrite, they should re-legalize tarring and feathering for people like you.


lol


And once again, instead of displaying any ounce of intelligence, you dodge, dodge, and dodge some more.
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Postby Rhaynne » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:09 am

I guess your little religious group forgot that whole "Judge not lest ye be judged" part huh?

I was under the impression that Christians are called to minister through example, compassion, understanding and discussion. I guess I missed the chapter that mentions using a club of self-righteousness instead.

Silly me.
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Postby Xaiveir » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:12 am

Rhaynne wrote:I guess your little religious group forgot that whole "Judge not lest ye be judged" part huh?

I was under the impression that Christians are called to minister through example, compassion, understanding and discussion. I guess I missed the chapter that mentions using a club of self-righteousness instead.

Silly me.



That has been said to Mindia many, many, many times before. An emoticon is usually his resonse.
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Postby Gypsiyee » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:15 am

either an emoticon or why don't you go back to being buddhist, or lol, or You're so dumb, lol pwned!
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Postby Martrae » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:38 am

I'd love to see Mindia's answer to this:

Whilst at the funeral of her own mother, a woman met a man who she did not know. She thought this guy was amazing, so much her dream guy she believed him to be, that she fell in love with him there and then but after the funeral forgot to ask for his phone number and then... A few days later the woman killed her own sister.

Question: What is her motive in killing her sister?
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Postby Gidan » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:46 am

Mindia wrote:
Gidan wrote:
Mindia wrote:
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Trust me, that child will be thankful that the cult couple won't be able to adopt him, and that he's going to have to wait a little while longer


As someone who works in a school with a large number of foster kids...are you out of your mind? I mean do you really, really believe that foster kids give a sh*t about what religion a potential family is? All that they care about is getting the hell out of a home where someone is taking money to "love" them. These kids dream about the day someone will adopt them. The last thing some poor kid is going to be doing is sitting on a bed gleefully rubbing their hands together saying "Man those CATHOLIC SCUM GOT OWNED!!!!1!!1!!!!"


Of course not. Kids don't know too much detail about religion and they probably wouldn't care. It's Christians that care, because they want to see a foster child grow up with a Christian denomination that isn't cultish and paganistic like the RCC. That's why I'm so grateful that Betheny is taking a firm stance on this... somebody has to.


Unfortunatly they seemed to miss the whole gov't funding thing that says they CANT DO THAT. They can not base their decisions on what religion people are. What part of religios FREEDOM do you not understand? In this country you are free to practice whatever religion you wish (even you), and no govn't or gov't funded agency can descriminate against you for those beliefs. The day they took their first cent from the gov't they gave up the operturnity to do deny a child a good loving home because of the families religios beliefs.

Now the fact that you label all Catholics as your enemys just proves yoru just an idiot. Their are a great many very loving RC parents. I would even bet their are a great many great SDA parents. No adoption agency especially one that recieves any gov't funding should not be denying good parents children because of their religion.

Also how in the world do you a SDA call the catholic church a cult? A religion that says it follows the bible closer then any other religion, well what it actually did what pick a choose the parts of the bible it wanted and ignores the rest. A religion that follows the teaching of a psychotic women. And a religion which even you cant follow all their core beliefs. If anyone is in a cult its you, not the cathlics. Even considering that, even you shouldn't be denied the right to adopt a child based on yoru religios beliefs.


Gidan, you know absolutely nothing about the Bible. Stick with your buddhism.


So you blindly assume that since I dont follow the bible I know nothing about it. By that logic you must know nothing about almost everything.
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Postby 10sun » Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:00 pm

Martrae wrote:I'd love to see Mindia's answer to this:

Whilst at the funeral of her own mother, a woman met a man who she did not know. She thought this guy was amazing, so much her dream guy she believed him to be, that she fell in love with him there and then but after the funeral forgot to ask for his phone number and then... A few days later the woman killed her own sister.

Question: What is her motive in killing her sister?


Seeing him again.
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Postby Darcler » Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:30 pm

10sun wrote:
Martrae wrote:I'd love to see Mindia's answer to this:

Whilst at the funeral of her own mother, a woman met a man who she did not know. She thought this guy was amazing, so much her dream guy she believed him to be, that she fell in love with him there and then but after the funeral forgot to ask for his phone number and then... A few days later the woman killed her own sister.

Question: What is her motive in killing her sister?


Seeing him again.


Whaa?

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Postby Narrock » Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:03 pm

Xaiveir Tanthalas wrote:Excuse me(correcting something in my last post) religion is not a viable reason no matter what you may think. If roles were reversed, and a christian couple had been denied, you would be screaming bloody murder about it.


You're damn straight.
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Postby 10sun » Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:05 pm

Mindia wrote:
Xaiveir Tanthalas wrote:Excuse me(correcting something in my last post) religion is not a viable reason no matter what you may think. If roles were reversed, and a christian couple had been denied, you would be screaming bloody murder about it.


You're damn straight.


and you aren't.
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Postby Narrock » Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:07 pm

10sun wrote:
Mindia wrote:
Xaiveir Tanthalas wrote:Excuse me(correcting something in my last post) religion is not a viable reason no matter what you may think. If roles were reversed, and a christian couple had been denied, you would be screaming bloody murder about it.


You're damn straight.


and you aren't.


OH HAHAHAHA HEHEHEHEHE HOHOHOHOHO

Now THAT's some real humor.
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Postby Xaiveir » Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:26 pm

Mindia wrote:
Xaiveir Tanthalas wrote:Excuse me(correcting something in my last post) religion is not a viable reason no matter what you may think. If roles were reversed, and a christian couple had been denied, you would be screaming bloody murder about it.


You're damn straight.



Hmmm so by that, you are in fact a hypocrit.......
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Postby Narrock » Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:36 pm

Xaiveir Tanthalas wrote:
Mindia wrote:
Xaiveir Tanthalas wrote:Excuse me(correcting something in my last post) religion is not a viable reason no matter what you may think. If roles were reversed, and a christian couple had been denied, you would be screaming bloody murder about it.


You're damn straight.



Hmmm so by that, you are in fact a hypocrit.......


:umno:

Looks like you're having a bad comprehension day?
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Postby Martrae » Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:37 pm

I'm still waiting for Mindia's answer.
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Postby Gypsiyee » Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:50 pm

Mindia wrote:
Xaiveir Tanthalas wrote:
Mindia wrote:
Xaiveir Tanthalas wrote:Excuse me(correcting something in my last post) religion is not a viable reason no matter what you may think. If roles were reversed, and a christian couple had been denied, you would be screaming bloody murder about it.


You're damn straight.



Hmmm so by that, you are in fact a hypocrit.......


:umno:

Looks like you're having a bad comprehension day?


Nothing wrong with his comprehension at all. Perhaps catholics think YOU'RE a cultist (and I can't say I disagree) and deny you a child because of your religion - you're saying that *that* wouldn't be ok, because your religion is the proper religion and children should be raised with your values - not all people will agree with you, in fact with the way you act I'd go as far as to say most people won't agree with you - so how is it ok to deny one religion and not the other?

*that* is how you're a hypocrite. Newsflash, Mindia, for millions and millions of years there have been different people with different views on religion and politics, and so on and so forth - without any true fact to base it on, no one is right or wrong. With the massive grey area, to deny anyone a child or to deny a child a loving home because of their *opinion* is complete and utter bullshit, especially when this country pays to fund those types of organizations and this country is founded on things such as EQUALITY and FREEDOM OF RELIGION.

Now certainly if you were a good red-blooded American who lived and breathed for this country as you so claim, you would understand and accept that, and send that child into loving arms regardless of your difference of opinion. Your lack of respect for what this country is founded on is just as bad as the burning of the flag that you wish ill will on people for.
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Postby Narrock » Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:05 pm

Gypsiyee wrote:
Mindia wrote:
Xaiveir Tanthalas wrote:
Mindia wrote:
Xaiveir Tanthalas wrote:Excuse me(correcting something in my last post) religion is not a viable reason no matter what you may think. If roles were reversed, and a christian couple had been denied, you would be screaming bloody murder about it.


You're damn straight.



Hmmm so by that, you are in fact a hypocrit.......


:umno:

Looks like you're having a bad comprehension day?


Nothing wrong with his comprehension at all. Perhaps catholics think YOU'RE a cultist (and I can't say I disagree) and deny you a child because of your religion - you're saying that *that* wouldn't be ok, because your religion is the proper religion and children should be raised with your values - not all people will agree with you, in fact with the way you act I'd go as far as to say most people won't agree with you - so how is it ok to deny one religion and not the other?

*that* is how you're a hypocrite. Newsflash, Mindia, for millions and millions of years there have been different people with different views on religion and politics, and so on and so forth - without any true fact to base it on, no one is right or wrong. With the massive grey area, to deny anyone a child or to deny a child a loving home because of their *opinion* is complete and utter bullshit, especially when this country pays to fund those types of organizations and this country is founded on things such as EQUALITY and FREEDOM OF RELIGION.

Now certainly if you were a good red-blooded American who lived and breathed for this country as you so claim, you would understand and accept that, and send that child into loving arms regardless of your difference of opinion. Your lack of respect for what this country is founded on is just as bad as the burning of the flag that you wish ill will on people for.


I believe that was the most idiotic post you've ever made.
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