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kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:24 am

I still love you Kizzy

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:25 am

of course it's all about you, the apology was to you and not the guild. I have nothing to apologize to the guild for, silly.

Insanityfair · Post by **Insanityfair** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:27 am

Damnit the thread turned into being about the guild, focus people!

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:28 am

This is about me leaving and everyone hating me.

Thanks.

Tacks · Post by **Tacks** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:28 am

I wish another member would have posted what I did, then you could actually look at what I said objectively and not threateningly and personal(which you turned it into).

Darcler · Post by **Darcler** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:48 am

There are still a great many people who know who Kezz is. People who were originally guilded with him are still there.
Kezz left because there were far too many casual players in a guild he wanted to make raid-heavy. At least thats what I was told.
The reason "the guild is going under" is because we are merging. I dislike merges, they never ever work out well in the end (think Infusion) and there are too many power hungry people trying to manipulate the guild in a way they see fit.
They are raiding, however, but with other people and on PUs. There sometimes just arent enough high levels on, you have jerkfaces like me in the guild for whatever reason and refuse to level up.

Tacks · Post by **Tacks** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:55 am

In other words you totally agree with what I said? =P

Darcler · Post by **Darcler** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:58 am

I cant say that or there will be another post in the officer's section of TN about the drama on NT. I'm trying to lay low and get help from people that actually want to help me, not from people who are doing it because they know I will leave.

Tacks · Post by **Tacks** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:00 pm

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:04 pm

I am almost 40 now Darcler. Two more bubs left.

Darcler · Post by **Darcler** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:06 pm

I hit 38 last night. I got home at 11ish =/

Insanityfair · Post by **Insanityfair** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:07 pm

Darcler wrote:I cant say that or there will be another post in the officer's section of TN about the drama on NT. I'm trying to lay low and get help from people that actually want to help me, not from people who are doing it because they know I will leave.

So if I help you, you'll leave? :D

Come....to the dark side......

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:07 pm

Kizzy wrote:I am almost 40 now Darcler. Two more bubs left.

pwalvl me thnx

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:07 pm

kaharthemad wrote:I still love you Kizzy

I love you too!!

Darcler · Post by **Darcler** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:11 pm

I dont have anywhere to go. Maybe I can find a gay guild with a gay name...like Fuzzy Kittens League or something. That would be fun.

Post by **Lyion** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:16 pm

Darcler wrote:I cant say that or there will be another post in the officer's section of TN about the drama on NT. I'm trying to lay low and get help from people that actually want to help me, not from people who are doing it because they know I will leave.

Melting pot guilds rarely work because the hardcore, casual, and drama types are always at odds.

This was true in EQ. It remains true in WOW.

Tacks · Post by **Tacks** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:19 pm

Have you seen Wanderers Lyion? You're wrong. Heck theres a bunch of guilds even on our server that would fit that description. I wouldn't say they "rarely" work.

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:21 pm

lyion wrote:Melting pot guilds rarely work because the hardcore, casual, and drama types are always at odds.

This was true in EQ. It remains true in WOW.

I told that to Kezz about 2 months before the shit hit the storm. The way our guild was put together was never a formula for success. We had too many hardcores and too many casual all asking for different things.

If you recruit odd parings of people at low lvls some of them turn into harcore players and some of em never lvl past 40. The Nameless was a great family guild, I had an awesome time in there when I did, that's why I went back with Zanchief. But it will never be a raiding guild, unless the contain becomes A LOT easier.

Just my opinion on the subject.

Post by **Lyion** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:28 pm

Taxx wrote:Have you seen Wanderers Lyion? You're wrong. Heck theres a bunch of guilds even on our server that would fit that description. I wouldn't say they "rarely" work.

No, I'm solely speaking from personal experience. I'm sure with great management, infrastructure and a selfless core of people it could work, but I think it's the exception instead of the norm. Again this is just what I've seen and it may be easier in WOW and I could be completely wrong

Zanchief wrote:If you recruit odd parings of people at low lvls some of them turn into harcore players and some of em never lvl past 40. The Nameless was a great family guild, I had an awesome time in there when I did, that's why I went back with Zanchief. But it will never be a raiding guild, unless the contain becomes A LOT easier.

Just my opinion on the subject.

Yup, exactly, although I only made it to 40 with my Nameless dude on Whisperwind.

10sun · Post by **10sun** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:37 pm

I may have to reactivate other account and play around for a month or two.

-Adam

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:40 pm

Taxx wrote:Have you seen Wanderers Lyion? You're wrong. Heck theres a bunch of guilds even on our server that would fit that description. I wouldn't say they "rarely" work.

They had the most hardcores from the get go Taxx and since they were so far ahead of the curve, they became a magnet for hardcore players. It only worked that way because they were 1st out of the gates, and they recruited heavily along the way.

But they still have their fair share of expendable players, they just ignore them.