An old friend with problems

[Diekan]

That's an honor that can never be taken from you... queeny.

[Jay]

jesus fucking christ Diek you are fucking stupid in 2 threads...you going for NT dumbass crown today?

While I agree Diekan can sometimes be a dumbass I'm not quite sure how that stacks up against "I didn't know that getting my ass kicked by my significant other was bad".

Hey, I am a Mr. Niceguy. I hold doors, pull chairs, buy flowers and it works out ok for me. That stuff you don't do during the courting process though. I use that stuff as "girlfriend retention" which is a decent amount of time into the relationship. When you're going after a girl, you kinda gotta give that "Hey I don't really care THAT much about you, but I'm interested" attitude.

Being a Mr. Niceguy doesn't mean you're a pussy or you're not gonna get laid. The thing is you gotta be in control while being a Mr. Niceguy at the same time. Sure, I'll open a door, pull out the chair, pay for meals and dates and all that, but I also have expectations. She can't look bad when we go out, she has to be polite, she has to respect my worklife and she has to be a good cook =P. I told my girlfriend all of that and have even cancelled a date because she looked bad that day. If you lay out expectations and follow up with the nice guy thing, it gives them incentive to meet your needs and also, they know that you're not obsessed or clinging. Those expectations let them know that you'll bounce if they don't meet them.

[Gypsiyee]

By slim, attractive women I'm assuming you mean cliche bimbos from MTV Spring Break

You base your entire opinion on one very narrow scope - if relationships aren't for you, fine - but you're lying to all of NT if you're saying that they're just not for you based on observation alone.. to me, it's pretty obvious that you got yourself in a couple shitty situations and are tainted on the entire subject - either that, or you watch way too much TV

You're passing judgment that if you're attractive, you're a bitch; sure, there are great women out there, but theyre all fat and ugly, and that's below your standards. Well, what about all the manface heifers that are guilty of being cunts? What about the tons of beautiful women out there that aren't after someone's wallet among other things?

Quite frankly, Diek, perhaps you're aiming a bit too high. I've seen pictures of you, and while you're not ugly, you're no Brad Pitt yourself - so in a man's generalization, which do you fall in? Hot chauvanistic assholes, or mediocre nice guy? If we wanna narrow it down to your perspective, it's gotta be one of the two, and really.. you're neither - you're more of a combination of the two.

All this divorce and infidelity you mention.. that's not all women, you know. Yes.. true love is rare, and even moreso with the higher the population gets - that's just statistics. The infidelity and divorce rates are higher than they've ever been only because times have changed with people wanting more liberation over the years.. well, people got it, can leave and do as they please without reprocussion, and the infidelity and divorce rates are a direct result of that, imo. It's a comparison to the past where it was unheard of to divorce - by today's standards it's OK, so of course there's more.. doesn't mean true love doesn't exist, just means the occurance (or lack of) is more widely recognized. Once upon a time, it was very hush hush - doesn't mean it didn't happen.

As for myself.. no, of course I don't want some knight in shining armor with no backbone - being unable to speak for yourself is a huge turnoff.. but there is such thing as balance - you can have a healthy relationship without headaches while speaking your opinion and getting what you want AND having respect for the other person.. that's what love is about - middle ground.

For your sake, I truly hope you find a woman that knocks you off your feet and is good to you - it's a great thing to have once you find it. Believe me, if I based love on my past relationships, lord knows I wouldn't want to be with any man ever again either.. but I'm open minded enough to know that not every man is like the last.

[Captain Insano]

I was at this bar last week and tried to start a decent conversation with a relatively attractive chick and she started getting all snooty with me...

So I switched into Ralf Macchio mode and said these exact words:


"Sweetheat...At your age you really can't afford to be giving anyone attitude...There is a good reason your still at the bars trying to land a man at your age. Think about it."


I could see her soul crumble through her otherwise vacant eyes.


She then proceeded to actually apologize and was up on my nuts after that...well until I left her by herself because I saw and asian girl with huge tits.

[Captain Insano]

I was at this bar last week and tried to start a decent conversation with a relatively attractive chick and she started getting all snooty with me...

So I switched into Ralf Macchio mode and said these exact words:


"Sweetheat...At your age you really can't afford to be giving anyone attitude...There is a good reason your still at the bars trying to land a man at your age. Think about it."


I could see her soul crumble through her otherwise vacant eyes.


She then proceeded to actually apologize and was up on my nuts after that...well until I left her by herself because I saw and asian girl with huge tits.

[Captain Insano]

ps

I keep getting some weird internal server errors causing double posts. I think the board is being haunted by the ghosts of waffles long dead.

[Diekan]

LOL that's exactly right. That's usually what you can expect from decent looking slender women. When you're skinny and attractive in a country full of fat asses - you can act anyway you want and get away with it.

[Spazz]

Whats with you and this " decent looking slender woman " ?

[Trielelvan]

He is speaking strictly of bar sluts - aka: bimbo with an IQ of her ring size and spreads like peanut butter for anything walking around with a schlong and a thick wallet.

[Goose_Man]

The people here that are disagreing with you Diekan are either:

A: Women

or

B: The nice guy losers who try to get in their pants by being a nice guy.

[Spazz]

Ya know im nice most of the time when im with my lady company and i dont have a single problem getting any. Im only a dickhead when my niggaz are around.

[Captain Insano]

Add fucking liar to that.

Look if you are going to sit here and tell me that on average you get more chicks by being nice than a prick you are out of your fucking mind. I'm not just talking about bitches at bars either...Women these days are always getting catered to...Not to mention everyone is always indulging their fucking psychotic whims and stupid ass ideas...Deep down they are looking for a man to come rule them.

Don't get me wrong I don't act like a total dick straight off with chicks, but I definitely give them a bit of lip just to know where they stand

Now. If a chick does give me attitude because she was too godamn dumb to figure out just who she was dealing with, I put on a pair of my O.J. specials and choke a bitch.

[mofish]

Quality over quantity. All this bullshit in this thread is hilarious. Im a nice guy, and I live with a nice girl. And we have a nice life. NICE EH?

[Spazz]

I get a ton ralph just happens to be with the same 2 girls. I got one to many but i can never decide wich should go.

[Diekan]

You got lucky and did find a quality woman Mo. But, if you go back and look at what I said - MOST people - NOT all people - are like the way I described.

It's just a fact of the American culture. And, Goose is right. Women have been catered to for eons - by dumbass men who think if they do this or that - they'll get some play. A lot of women act the way they do because of men.

People on this site are often quick to jump the gun. Instead of skimming over a page, or actually reading and thinking about what the person said - they just make assumptions. Where in any of my posts did I say I treated women like shit? I never said that. I said, over and over, that I'm not one to put up with their bullshit, which is in part one of the reasons I don't want a relationship.

[DangerPaul]

Diekan, you are exactly how I was when I was your age. I will not sit here and bash you over it, because I can completely relate. Keep your eyes open, otherwise like me, you will get kidnapped into a relationship and not know what happened. I still have moments when I am thinking, "wtf did I get myself into?" You are young, have fun, watch out for STDs and when you least expect it, get blindsided into love.

[Martrae]

Paul...that was sweet.

[kaharthemad]

yeah...im touched...Squeeze DangerPaul the right way and he will prolly sing 'Feelings'

[Harrison]

It's just a fact of the American culture. And, Goose is right. Women have been catered to for eons - by dumbass men who think if they do this or that - they'll get some play.

Not everything a man does for a woman is done to get laid.

[Adivina]

Thank you Diekan for that crushing post. I will now sit and ponder if Aryylas only likes me because I have nice tits....

Despite what women have some of you guys believing... women do not dig "nice" - they dig good looking guys who act like guys. They could care less about what kind of person you are. But, some men still have their heads up women's asses so far they still buy the bullshit they are fed.

If you wanna destroy your relationships - go ahead and start acting like you care... if you want to keep it alive... treat her no different then you do your guy friends and you won't be able to get rid of her.

Oh and by the way, thats the kind of shit that drives me off. I will treat you like a fucking god, I will do EVERYTHING and ANYTHING you ask, but if you can't respect me in return you can go jack off, because I'm not sticking around.

(using you in a general sense for clarity here people!)

[Martrae]

You need to post pics of said tits before we can judge appropriately.


In a sense Diekan is right. Women want men who act like men. Who can stand up for themselves and not be a wimp about everything. They may say they like sensitive guys but if they are too sensitive deep in the recesses of their souls they really think less of them and that's not a solid foundation that's gonna last.

There is, however, a difference between being an ass and being strong (and I don't mean physical strength).

[Adivina]

Act like a man sure, but don't treat me like I am shit. If you treat me like just another one of your guy friends, I will not be in a relationship with you.

[Jay]

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. I have nice tits....

Prove it!

[Jay]

Damn Mart, enlightened minds think alike.

[Adivina]

Sigh Ero, taken out of context lol.

I was just saying that because Diekan wrote that basically the only reason guys are in a relationship are because the girl has a nice rack. Seeing as I have been with Aryylas for five years, I guess all my dreams of him really loving me must be shattered because Dieken knows all.....