Oh, Conservative Canada..

[Lyion]

What a fucked up country.. No wonder so many Canucks are such mindless Bush hating brainwashed cretins, being fed such propaganda by their state run TV.

Anyways, glad they appear to actually be getting rid of the corrupt Liberal Party. Although I should take polls with a grain of salt.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... world.html

Canada's Conservatives appear to be steaming towards a historic general election victory, opinion polls have predicted.

With less than a week until polling day on Jan 23, yesterday every survey showed that the party that has been out of power for more than a decade is poised to crush the ruling Liberals headed by Paul Martin, the prime minister.

Stephen Harper
Mr Harper gets his message across at a campaign rally

The latest polls give the Conservatives a 10-point lead over the Liberals, with some showing a widening gap between the two parties.

Amid growing signals of panic in the Liberal ranks, the party has launched a series of crudely anti-American commercials. One stated that victory for the 47-year-old Tory leader, Stephen Harper, would "bring a smile to George W Bush's face".

Another described Mr Harper as "pro-Iraqi war, anti-Kyoto, socially conservative... Bush's new best friend".

But despite strong anti-Americanism among voters, the adverts have had little effect on the polls. Voters appear far more concerned about domestic issues such as corruption. The Conservatives have already promised not to send troops to Iraq.

Liberal sources have begun briefing journalists about widespread internal dissent. One Liberal told the Toronto Star that Mr Martin, in office since December 2003, would pay the price for a failed campaign.

"He'll be out of here on election night," he told the paper.

Senior Liberals publicly admit that they are in serious trouble. A senior campaign strategist, Mike Robertson, told a television interviewer: "I don't think any of us are going to disagree that if you look at the polls, there is no question that if the election were held today the Conservative Party would form a government."

Pollsters say that the Tories look certain to poll most votes but cannot yet be sure of winning a majority in the 308-member House of Commons. Frank Graves, the head of the Ekos polling organisation, said that was now the election's biggest question. "Clearly, he [Mr Harper] is going to achieve a government of some sort," he said.

In elections 18 months ago, the Conservatives also seemed poised to triumph but the party fell back as the Liberals launched a fierce last-minute assault.

But this time the Tory surge looks more sustained and their message clearer. The party is promising clean government, tax cuts, a tough line on crime and much increased funding for the hard-up armed forces.

The Liberals have been hurt by a bribery scandal when it was revealed that the party gave millions of taxpayers' dollars to allies in public relations agencies. Further questions over the party's ethics have dogged it through the campaign.

Canada now faces the prospect of a majority Tory government for the first time since the party's disastrous 1993 showing, when the prime minister Kim Campbell lost office in a tidal wave which reduced her party from 169 MPs to two.

Mr Harper is viewed by some as a strangely insular politician with an aversion to the press. Those who have watched him closely explain this as the result of the way he despises the politics of soundbites and stunts.

William Johnson, who has been researching a book on the party leader, told the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation he has "contempt for politicians, for the cheap tricks they play". Instead, for Mr Harper, politics is about policy.

Yesterday he emphasised a traditional Conservative interest: defence.

He said: "I have made no secret of our desire to rebuild the Canadian military to have the capacities of a sovereign nation, and to make foreign policy decisions that are not only independent, but are actually noticed by other powers around the world."

[brinstar]

the above post paid for by the George W. Bush foundation

[Tikker]

interesting moderation in this thread too

[Lyion]

I haven't modded anything here. I should've put this in the Coffee Shop, since it was a bit baiting and given a more free reign from the other responsible mods. I'll move it now.

[Zanchief]

What a fucked up country.. No wonder so many Canucks are such mindless Bush hating brainwashed cretins, being fed such propaganda by their state run TV.

Stick to what you don't know well.

Also, doesn't the above statement break about 10 NT rules which you constantly inforce on others?

Nice bait job and all but maybe you could try and show a little class instead of just being a windbag.

[Lyion]

I get Canadian State TV in Northern Ohio, Comrade.

Amid growing signals of panic in the Liberal ranks, the party has launched a series of crudely anti-American commercials. One stated that victory for the 47-year-old Tory leader, Stephen Harper, would "bring a smile to George W Bush's face".

Another described Mr Harper as "pro-Iraqi war, anti-Kyoto, socially conservative... Bush's new best friend".

That just strikes me as silly. But desperation is a stinky cologne, I suppose.

[Tikker]

Well, if you could see the US without the propaganda glasses you've got, you'd understand why we don't want a politician that has US leanings

[Zanchief]

I get Canadian State TV in Northern Ohio, Comrade.

Amid growing signals of panic in the Liberal ranks, the party has launched a series of crudely anti-American commercials. One stated that victory for the 47-year-old Tory leader, Stephen Harper, would "bring a smile to George W Bush's face".

Another described Mr Harper as "pro-Iraqi war, anti-Kyoto, socially conservative... Bush's new best friend".

That just strikes me as silly. But desperation is a stinky cologne, I suppose.

You should see the adds the Conservatives are running. Atleast these ones are right.

[Eziekial]

Interesting how Canadans seem to have had their fill of liberalism. High taxes and soft policies on crime=ugly defeat at the ballots.

[Lyion]

Well, if you could see the US without the propaganda glasses you've got, you'd understand why we don't want a politician that has US leanings

So you're completely unbiased, eh, and see the big picture?

Ez, the Liberals would still be in power, except for their scandals. The Canadian Tory Party is as incompetent as the US Dems. Plus, the Canadian news and media is so biasedly left wing and bad, it makes the US media look truly fair and balanced.

[Zanchief]

Plus, the Canadian news and media is so biasedly left wing and bad, it makes the US media look truly fair and balanced.

Do yourself a favor Zeek, and don't take his word for it. He couldn't be further from the truth. Almost all the media in this country has turned on the Liberals and the print media, aside from some national papers, has been siding with the conservatives for years.

Lyions been basically saying the same thing for years, without any real knowledge how things are, just to try and get me a Tikker going.

Funny that if either of us would make the same baseless boneheaded claims about the US, we would be moderated and/or banned. Gotta love those double standards.

[Eziekial]

I take most of what you boys say with a grain of salt. It's an opinion and everyone has one. I truely believe that Canada has a lot of issues they need to work out. Is any system of government perfect? Absolutely not. As Gore interestingly quoted from John Locke: "All just power is derived from the consent of the governed." in Arlos's post in CA, each nation's citizenry has it's own tastes for how/what form their government takes. If Canadians want a socalist minded government, fine. I think it serves as a reality check on what our own politicians push for from time to time. My opinion is that people will evntually rebel against the ideals of socialist as it strikes against our inherant nature, but we shall see.

[Zanchief]

I take most of what you boys say with a grain of salt. It's an opinion and everyone has one. I truely believe that Canada has a lot of issues they need to work out. Is any system of government perfect? Absolutely not. As Gore interestingly quoted from John Locke: "All just power is derived from the consent of the governed." in Arlos's post in CA, each nation's citizenry has it's own tastes for how/what form their government takes. If Canadians want a socalist minded government, fine. I think it serves as a reality check on what our own politicians push for from time to time. My opinion is that people will evntually rebel against the ideals of socialist as it strikes against our inherant nature, but we shall see.

Um we don't have a socialist government.

[Lyion]

Funny that if either of us would make the same baseless boneheaded claims about the US, we would be moderated and/or banned. Gotta love those double standards.

You get away with murder on these boards and are rarely modded. You unfortunately do tend to go apeshit about things you disagree with. Hmm, wonder who that's like?

Canada swings the pendulum back and forth between wanting to be like the US, and wanting to be like the EU.

They want everything taken care of, like the EU, but then they want the booming economy and do not want the huge unemployment of the EU also. They want to be sovereign, but do not want to pay for defense and while bad mouthing the US, they completely rely on us for world security.

Their politics are entertaining, although not as much as the UKs or ours.

[Zanchief]

You get away with murder on these boards

If I could Mindia would be sipping Tequila with the big guy as we speak.

[Lyion]

Mindia will be back... Amazingly, the same time Mike G is..