If you were flying on the Concord

[brinstar]

rofl doubleteamed

[Aatrex]

[Arlos]

If you want an actual more technical answer, the speed of sound is not an absolute. It is defined as, basically, the "speed of propagation of waves through a given medium". Water, for example, is much better for sound waves, and the speed of sound in water is, if I remember right, somewhere in the neighborhood of 4-5x faster than it is in air.

Whoever mentioned temperature as being the key for air speed is right. Up at the height commercial jets fly at, speed of sound is actually about 100mph slower than it is at sea level, and it's entirely because of the temperature difference.

In any case, back to the original question... This is where that definition I mentioned in the first paragraph comes into play, as does the concept of relative velocity. The medium in this case is the cylinder of air inside the fusilage of the concorde. Since it is completely isolated from the outside air, the speed at which you are passing through that medium is utterly irrelevant. The air, as far as the speaker is concerned, is motionless. Therefore, it will behave the same as if you were speaking anywhere else, with the sound waves moving through that specific volume of air at 700+ mph compared to everything else inside that volume. So yes, because of the isolation from the outside environment, that means that the sound waves in the Concorde would be travelling at an aggregate speed of > 3x the speed of sound outside the plane.

-Arlos

[leah]

No crusade, my very existence proves my superiority over you.

what does that even mean? it's not like you had anything to do with your existence. if nothing else, it proves the inferiority of your parents' good sense... next time WRAP IT UP!!

[araby]

[Ouchyfish]

No crusade, my very existence proves my superiority over you.

what does that even mean? it's not like you had anything to do with your existence. if nothing else, it proves the inferiority of your parents' good sense... next time WRAP IT UP!!

[leah]

also thank you arlos for the serious answer... i was actually pretty interested in the theory

[Goose_Man]

Shut the fuck up Harrison

[Captain Insano]

If you want an actual more technical answer, the speed of sound is not an absolute. It is defined as, basically, the "speed of propagation of waves through a given medium". Water, for example, is much better for sound waves, and the speed of sound in water is, if I remember right, somewhere in the neighborhood of 4-5x faster than it is in air.

Whoever mentioned temperature as being the key for air speed is right. Up at the height commercial jets fly at, speed of sound is actually about 100mph slower than it is at sea level, and it's entirely because of the temperature difference.

In any case, back to the original question... This is where that definition I mentioned in the first paragraph comes into play, as does the concept of relative velocity. The medium in this case is the cylinder of air inside the fusilage of the concorde. Since it is completely isolated from the outside air, the speed at which you are passing through that medium is utterly irrelevant. The air, as far as the speaker is concerned, is motionless. Therefore, it will behave the same as if you were speaking anywhere else, with the sound waves moving through that specific volume of air at 700+ mph compared to everything else inside that volume. So yes, because of the isolation from the outside environment, that means that the sound waves in the Concorde would be travelling at an aggregate speed of > 3x the speed of sound outside the plane.

-Arlos

so what you are saying is all we have to do is roll down the windows on the concord to achieve kung fu drive? BLOODY AWESOME!

[Ouchyfish]

Makes me think of that scene in Star Trek where they had to get the whales.

WARP 7! WARP 8! WARP 9!

[Tacks]

Someone post the Harrison forklift picture.

[Arlos]

so what you are saying is all we have to do is roll down the windows on the concord to achieve kung fu drive? BLOODY AWESOME!

Well, doing that would be decicedly unhealthy, actually. First, the plane would probably rip itself into confetti within seconds or so. Two, you'd suddenly find yourself exposed to the elements at 50,000 feet, so it'd be like 60 below zero, and you'd start suffocate immediately because of no Oxygen. And three, you're moving through the air at 1400 mph and you're in a t-shirt. Tornados can drive pieces of straw through concrete at only 300 mph... I think you'd be doing about the equivalent of jumping into a giant blender set on Frappe...

Now, as to whether you would get Kung Fu voice if you tried it, that I have no clue. I vote we punt Harrison out of a Concorde with a tape recorder and see if we can find out...

-Arlos

[Ouchyfish]

Now, as to whether you would get Kung Fu voice if you tried it, that I have no clue. I vote we punt Harrison out of a Concorde with a tape recorder and see if we can find out...

-Arlos

[araby]

Someone post the Harrison forklift picture.

honestly this made me laffo

[Drem]

Well, doing that would be decicedly unhealthy, actually. First, the plane would probably rip itself into confetti within seconds or so. Two, you'd suddenly find yourself exposed to the elements at 50,000 feet, so it'd be like 60 below zero, and you'd start suffocate immediately because of no Oxygen. And three, you're moving through the air at 1400 mph and you're in a t-shirt. Tornados can drive pieces of straw through concrete at only 300 mph... I think you'd be doing about the equivalent of jumping into a giant blender set on Frappe...

dude i think he knew

[The Kizzy]

I am beginning to appreciate Arlos's avater a little more.

[Harrison]

This thread proves just how stupid some of you really are.

Pointedly Aatrex and Boybutter...

I doubt many others of you were this clueless.

As far as the forklift bullshit goes, laugh it up, I'll be making a lot more money than a lot of you.

[Tikker]

way to go arlos


now, twice in 1 year you've managed to use your mostly useless degree!

[Tacks]

I'll be making a lot more money than a lot of you.

Right, because you know what any of us do or how much we make...rofl.

Keep hauling pallets around, if you don't do it some mexican will.

[Tikker]

This thread proves just how stupid some of you really are.

Pointedly Aatrex and Boybutter...

I doubt many others of you were this clueless.

As far as the forklift bullshit goes, laugh it up, I'll be making a lot more money than a lot of you.

I'll take that bet

[Aatrex]

He probably has the definition of RICH printed out and put in a picture frame placed above his bathroom sink.

[Ouchyfish]

He probably has the definition of RICH printed out and put in a picture frame placed above his bathroom sink.

[Kramer]

Um. Harrison. I didn't imagine it was true. But. Then again. It seems to be helping those panties to stay in a wad, and you seem to gain EXTREME pleasure from it.......


so yes. I imagine that people's voices would be silly in a plane going real fast because I am not very scientific.... and I also think that people from the northeast are all inbred Irish Moron Bitches because I know this one guy on a messgae board who supposedly drives a forklift and bets he will be more rich than everyone.... see, such sweeping generalizations aren't very scientific either....

[Captain Insano]

so what you are saying is all we have to do is roll down the windows on the concord to achieve kung fu drive? BLOODY AWESOME!

Well, doing that would be decicedly unhealthy, actually. First, the plane would probably rip itself into confetti within seconds or so. Two, you'd suddenly find yourself exposed to the elements at 50,000 feet, so it'd be like 60 below zero, and you'd start suffocate immediately because of no Oxygen. And three, you're moving through the air at 1400 mph and you're in a t-shirt. Tornados can drive pieces of straw through concrete at only 300 mph... I think you'd be doing about the equivalent of jumping into a giant blender set on Frappe...

Now, as to whether you would get Kung Fu voice if you tried it, that I have no clue. I vote we punt Harrison out of a Concorde with a tape recorder and see if we can find out...

-Arlos

lol

[Harrison]

I'll be making a lot more money than a lot of you.

Right, because you know what any of us do or how much we make...rofl.

Keep hauling pallets around, if you don't do it some mexican will.

I guarantee it makes more money than you.