Ford

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:22 pm

It's simple. If they demand people drive Fords, they should just give them one.

Either that or STFU about what other people are driving. How is it "not supporting the company" by purchasing a car that doesn't suck ass?

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:47 pm

Granh wrote:Sure someone can find the link but I remember reading in a Time/USA Today or something like that where a few (ex)employees of a company were suing because they were fired for breaking the company’s no-smoking rule. The rule wasn't just “no smoking at work”, but no smoking period. Not at work, home, anywhere.

The company won.

I'm a smoker but I agree with the company. Smokers cause more expensive health insurance premiums, health setbacks and all in all cost the company more money with their (well, our) unhealthy habit. They have a right to enforce that to save money. It's not fair to a smoker, but oh well. Quit if the job is that important.

Yamori · Post by **Yamori** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:35 pm

You are confusing private policies with legal policies Diekan.

They aren't demanding or forcing people to buy Ford cars: they have no power to make people buy their cars or force them to do so - they are saying who can and can't park on their property. It isn't a violation of their rights in the slightest - people don't have an inherent legal right to park on Ford's private property, even if they are employees.

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:37 pm

It'd be like some hippy liberal company making all their employees take the bus to work.

Post by **Lyion** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:47 pm

Zanchief Returns wrote:It'd be like some hippy liberal company making all their employees take the bus to work.

It'd be more akin to the Greenpeace people asking their directors not to park their Hummers in the corporate parking garage.

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:55 pm

YOu guys are missing the POINT. The main REASON they only want them parking FORD cars in the FORD lot is because they want to promote AMERICANS to BUY AMERICAN. More than HALF of the parts are frm OVERSEAS.

Kramer · Post by **Kramer** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:19 pm

that is way beyond the scope of a company, determining what car you drive....

Captain Insano · Post by **Captain Insano** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:23 pm

this won't go on long... Ford makes shitty ass cars. Parking ain't going to solve the problem.

Maybe they should fire some executives and management for coming up with this shitbrained plan instead of spending their efforts on figuring out why no one wants their crappy cars.

Ouchyfish · Post by **Ouchyfish** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:33 pm

Just hire Japanese designers/engineers and everything would be fine.

Yamori · Post by **Yamori** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:49 pm

I would have just sectioned off a portion of the parking lot that is closer to the buildling to be designated as the 'ford only' lot. That way it rewards employees who buy ford by giving them less hassle in finding a space and less of a walk to the building. Giving your workers un-neccessary hassle is just moronic.

That said, the whole concept of parking rewards/penalties for buying ford cars is pretty stupid. Cars are expensive and most people don't replace them for at least 5 years, if not more. It's not like most people can just go out and buy a new car just so they can park in their work's parking lot. They're basically saying that they want to waste a worker's time and frustrate him for no reason for 5 years on the chance that he might buy a ford so he can park easier.

Ouchyfish · Post by **Ouchyfish** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:02 pm

yes because they are forced to work for such meager earnings....

Tuggan · Post by **Tuggan** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:06 pm

Im still waiting for the source on this here bullshit 'news' report.

Diekan · Post by **Diekan** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:09 pm

Yamori wrote:You are confusing private policies with legal policies Diekan.

They aren't demanding or forcing people to buy Ford cars: they have no power to make people buy their cars or force them to do so - they are saying who can and can't park on their property. It isn't a violation of their rights in the slightest - people don't have an inherent legal right to park on Ford's private property, even if they are employees.

No I understand exactly what the issue is - but I'm being realistic.

Ok, so let's say you're a single person working at Ford. How many cars does a single person typically own? One. So, if that car happens to be a non-Ford product you can't get to work, because you can't park in the fucking parking lot. That IS fucking rediculous.

Let's say you're married and you own two cars. What if one's a Honda and the other is an Isuzu... what then?

What... you're supposed to go out and BUY a fucking Ford so you can go to work?

Yes, again I understand they're not saying you must buy a Ford - but if you don't own one - you seem to be fucked.

Ouchyfish · Post by **Ouchyfish** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:23 pm

Not really. You just have to find somewhere else to park. Like i said earlier, I am pretty sure employees at Ford can afford a FORD car.

Unless the economic strains of making 85-100+ an hour to drive in a bolt is too hard for them to overcome.

Tuggan · Post by **Tuggan** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:25 pm

holy shit, 85-100+ an hour?

more like 12 bucks starting out, man.

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:27 pm

I dated a guy who has worked there for 15 years and made 85K a year

Ouchyfish · Post by **Ouchyfish** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:28 pm

Wow..they pay a lot more at the car plants down here. (Mercedes/Honda, etc)

Maybe 85/100 is a sarcastic strectch but last I checked, the majority of folks I know working at the plants out here were making well over 12 bucks.

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:29 pm

Tuggan, with love

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11057921/

Tuggan · Post by **Tuggan** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:32 pm

Thank You

"It was something this plant manager took upon himself. It's not a company-wide policy," Ford spokeswoman Anne Marie Gattari said

The ban applies to both salaried and hourly workers with permits to park on site. About 15 percent of Dearborn Truck employees have such permits. Employees who don't drive Ford products can still park in an employee lot across the street from the plant.

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:33 pm

Anytime, do you work at Ford Tuggan?

Tuggan · Post by **Tuggan** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:35 pm

Ouchyfish wrote:Wow..they pay a lot more at the car plants down here. (Mercedes/Honda, etc)

Maybe 85/100 is a sarcastic strectch but last I checked, the majority of folks I know working at the plants out here were making well over 12 bucks.

They (Honda specifically) dont offer the same benefits you will find at Ford or GM, so they can offer a slightly higher wage.

Starting out on an assembly line you dont make much. Salary employees do quite well from the start, but nowadays you need like 3 degrees to be considered.

Tuggan · Post by **Tuggan** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:40 pm

The Kizzy wrote:Anytime, do you work at Ford Tuggan?

No, but my Dad is finishing his 30th year next month.

Ouchyfish · Post by **Ouchyfish** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:45 pm

Tuggan wrote:
Ouchyfish wrote:Wow..they pay a lot more at the car plants down here. (Mercedes/Honda, etc)

Maybe 85/100 is a sarcastic strectch but last I checked, the majority of folks I know working at the plants out here were making well over 12 bucks.

They (Honda specifically) dont offer the same benefits you will find at Ford or GM, so they can offer a slightly higher wage.

Starting out on an assembly line you dont make much. Salary employees do quite well from the start, but nowadays you need like 3 degrees to be considered.

Call in sick or late one time and you're out, too.

Sorina S · Post by **Sorina S** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:48 pm

When they make a decent product I'll be glad to park it in thier lot, until then I'll just park my Tahoe around the corner.

Gaazy · Post by **Gaazy** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:08 pm

i think its stupid as hell, but its still THEIR fucking lot