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[Agrajag]

The pair beat the would-be robber with a pipe and held him at bay with his own gun.

Buckman escaped when the employees retreated into the store to call 911, but he was arrested a week later.

"The danger was past," Hurwitz told the paper. "These two employees took it upon themselves to go after Mr. Buckman after he left the store."

This was the gist of the story. I see where the two employees detained the would be robber with his own gun AFTER beating him with the pipe. I also see where he ran away when the left to call 911. I then see where they went after him because he had run away. I don't see where they beat the hell out of him again with the pipe, though. That is inferred by people reading this story. It does say that the police did catch him a week later. This would make me think that they DIDN'T catch him after he left.

[Ginzburgh]

If the guy was robbing the store and they beat the shit out of him, I will agree with you. I still would have just given the guy the money rather than attack a crack head weilding a pistol, but their attacking him would have been justified as a (courageous and stupid) act of self defense.

So if I read it wrong I apologize but the way it was written makes it sound as if the situation was diffused and they went after him for the fuck of it.

[Jay]

I meant, *weren't* trying to get him back. As in it wasn't revenge.

I didn't say someone made them do it. I said the criminals actions led to consequences. I'm all about personal responsibility. I'm the number one defacto supporter of personal responsibility. They took their own saftey into their own hands after someone threatened to keep them from ever seeing their children again. Forgive me for not shedding a tear he got messed up. The criminal's actions led to consequences and if he sues, he's alleviating his responsibility for what happened.

Boo fucking hoo, the world is now short one piece of shit.

I have no intention of defending what the robber did. He's got 18 years. Great. He's suing because he is a piece of shit. Got it. Does he have a case? Beyond the reason he's suing is there an actual reason why he should win? Yes. No one's shedding a tear for a piece of shit that got what he deserved, but those 2 guys should get what they deserve too for playing cop.

[Spazz]

Yall are a bunch of pussies i swear. Weve proven government cant handle anything else right why would you depend on them for your safety???? I think its time that everyone stops being such a pussy stops letting criminals do whatever the fuck they want and starts looking out for there own towns and comunities. Law makers and politicions dont give a shit and arent gonna do a damn thing and im sick of reading bout people stealing shit and raping and killing people Enuff is enuff i say. But the laws not on my side so i must be wrong.

[Ginzburgh]

Did you post after not reading the entire thread?

[Jay]

Yall are a bunch of pussies i swear. Weve proven government cant handle anything else right why would you depend on them for your safety???? I think its time that everyone stops being such a pussy stops letting criminals do whatever the fuck they want and starts looking out for there own towns and comunities. Law makers and politicions dont give a shit and arent gonna do a damn thing and im sick of reading bout people stealing shit and raping and killing people Enuff is enuff i say. But the laws not on my side so i must be wrong.

Dude you wouldn't do shit if something happened right in front of you. You talk about enough is enough (yeah that's how people who aren't on acid spell it) like you actually go out there and do shit for a rape victim or prevent murders. I swear if everyone walked the walk after talking the talk then NT would be the new fucking Justice League of America.

[Ginzburgh]

Can I be wonder woman!?

[Minrott]

Why is it so hard for metro-urbanites to believe that yes, some people actually believe that standing up for themselves in the face of imminent danger, or to defend someone else in the same situation(even a complete stranger) is the right thing to do? And that they would do it?

Are you that wrapped up in self preservation? Or is it some kind of jealousy that someone you consider to be your lesser actually has the character to do it?

It happens every day, if you happened to look for that sort of thing. Most of it just never makes the national media. These people aren't special or different or crazy or stupid. They simply realize the perfectly rational fact that the police aren't there to save you, and if it were possible for them to be everywhere at any time this would be a pretty shitty country to live in.

[Tikker]

at the mall attached to our office building, friend and I always go to the smitty's for coffee in the morning

anyways, yesterday, some indian was causing shit so the girls called security

when the guard showed up, the indian started swinging at him. I was close when it was happening, but the guard was doing fine, until he slipped

the indian then jumped on the guard and was going to jabown him, so i just walked up to him and punched him in the throat while he was distracted


this let the security guard get back on top, and whale on him for a bit

you know, to soften him up to get the cuffs on him

cops came, took the injun away, and no one was the wiser




ps, he made a cool gargling noise when i got him

[Minrott]

Perfect example. Others would watch the guard get loosed on because "It's not their fight" and they might get hurt. That would be terrible.

[Ginzburgh]

Why is it so hard for metro-urbanites to believe that yes, some people actually believe that standing up for themselves in the face of imminent danger, or to defend someone else in the same situation(even a complete stranger) is the right thing to do? And that they would do it?

Are you that wrapped up in self preservation? Or is it some kind of jealousy that someone you consider to be your lesser actually has the character to do it?

It happens every day, if you happened to look for that sort of thing. Most of it just never makes the national media. These people aren't special or different or crazy or stupid. They simply realize the perfectly rational fact that the police aren't there to save you, and if it were possible for them to be everywhere at any time this would be a pretty shitty country to live in.

Hey listen, if I were to engage in any physical violence, I'd be in danger of tattering my new plaid shorts!



P.S. Arent they fabulous!?

[Harrison]

I'd call people fags for wearing those here. You're not that far away either!

[Ginzburgh]

You're a pathetic excuse for a new englander.

[Harrison]

You're right, I barely even carry the accent. I worked hard to rid myself of it.

I still don't wear short plaid shorts.

[Ginzburgh]

Next you're gonna tell me you don't own at least three pairs of Sperry boat shoes.

[Harrison]

I think you're confusing New Englander with "gay".

[Ginzburgh]

Gays don't wear Sperrys. Even they think Sperrys are gay.

I would take a picture of mine but my digital camera battery is dead. They go great with my plaid shorts though.

[Drem]

at the mall attached to our office building, friend and I always go to the smitty's for coffee in the morning

anyways, yesterday, some indian was causing shit so the girls called security

when the guard showed up, the indian started swinging at him. I was close when it was happening, but the guard was doing fine, until he slipped

the indian then jumped on the guard and was going to jabown him, so i just walked up to him and punched him in the throat while he was distracted


this let the security guard get back on top, and whale on him for a bit

you know, to soften him up to get the cuffs on him

cops came, took the injun away, and no one was the wiser




ps, he made a cool gargling noise when i got him

but you post on NT, how could you ever accomplish something so daring... we're all just a bunch of pussies, right Jay?

[Narrock]

Why is it so hard for metro-urbanites to believe that yes, some people actually believe that standing up for themselves in the face of imminent danger, or to defend someone else in the same situation(even a complete stranger) is the right thing to do? And that they would do it?

Are you that wrapped up in self preservation? Or is it some kind of jealousy that someone you consider to be your lesser actually has the character to do it?

It happens every day, if you happened to look for that sort of thing. Most of it just never makes the national media. These people aren't special or different or crazy or stupid. They simply realize the perfectly rational fact that the police aren't there to save you, and if it were possible for them to be everywhere at any time this would be a pretty shitty country to live in.

Hey listen, if I were to engage in any physical violence, I'd be in danger of tattering my new plaid shorts!



P.S. Arent they fabulous!?

Those are pretty slick. Wear those with a button-down shirt and some 'Old Navy' flip-flops and you're all set.

[Drem]

Old Navy sucks.

[Markarado]

Yall are a bunch of pussies i swear. Weve proven government cant handle anything else right why would you depend on them for your safety???? I think its time that everyone stops being such a pussy stops letting criminals do whatever the fuck they want and starts looking out for there own towns and comunities. Law makers and politicions dont give a shit and arent gonna do a damn thing and im sick of reading bout people stealing shit and raping and killing people Enuff is enuff i say. But the laws not on my side so i must be wrong.

Dude you wouldn't do shit if something happened right in front of you. You talk about enough is enough (yeah that's how people who aren't on acid spell it) like you actully go out there and do shit for a rape victim or prevent murders. I swear if everyone walked the walk after talking the talk then NT would be the new fucking Justice League of America.

[Ginzburgh]

[quote]Those are pretty slick. Wear those with a button-down shirt and some 'Old Navy' flip-flops and you're all set.[/.quote]

Mindia, I must say that I am presently surprised.

[Jay]

Yall are a bunch of pussies i swear. Weve proven government cant handle anything else right why would you depend on them for your safety???? I think its time that everyone stops being such a pussy stops letting criminals do whatever the fuck they want and starts looking out for there own towns and comunities. Law makers and politicions dont give a shit and arent gonna do a damn thing and im sick of reading bout people stealing shit and raping and killing people Enuff is enuff i say. But the laws not on my side so i must be wrong.

Dude you wouldn't do shit if something happened right in front of you. You talk about enough is enough (yeah that's how people who aren't on acid spell it) like you actully go out there and do shit for a rape victim or prevent murders. I swear if everyone walked the walk after talking the talk then NT would be the new fucking Justice League of America.

Sabotage. I spelled it correctly.

[Narrock]

Those are pretty slick. Wear those with a button-down shirt and some 'Old Navy' flip-flops and you're all set.

Mindia, I must say that I am presently surprised.

That's how I dress most of the time in this nice weather. I mostly wear Khaki shorts though, not plaid. I'm thinkin about buying some though.

[Narrock]

Old Navy sucks.

Do you intentionally go against-the-grain when it comes to fashion or something?

Granted, I don't like everything Old Navy sells, but they pretty much have it nailed as to what is the popular 'casual' fashion. Their prices are very good too. Hey, you can't beat 2 pair of flip-flops for 5 bucks! I buy my business attire at Kohl's and Nordstrom's.