28th amendment to the U.S. Constitution underway...

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:44 am

Incoming... Harrison pic photshop from KILL. :rofl:

KILL · Post by **KILL** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:25 am

this is a much worse crime imo

Post by **Gidan** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:48 am

Evermore wrote:Too many people have died supporting what that flag stands for, Burning it is imo desicrating their sacrifices and their memories. It should have been illegal LONG ago

What does the flag actually stand for? I seem to recall this being a country based on freedom. This law is desecrating their sacrifices and their memory. Many people have died to protect the freedom that we hold dear today, and now many are cheering the removal of some of that freedom. The true test of freedom is allowing people to burn that very symbol in protest. We should be erasing the freedom that we have and not attempting to smother it out of existence.

The previous post actually makes a good point. What is the next step? Will it become illegal to burn clothing that is a representation of the flag? Will it become illegal to make clothing that represents the flag?

What is the next freedom we will give up? Will we blindly welcome it as many blindly welcome this? In 100years, or 200years when people look back, will we still be a free people, or will we be a people constantly worrying that our actions might be considered unpatriotic and land us in prison.

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:34 am

KILL wrote:this is a much worse crime imo

Why? Not that I'd wear a shirt like that, but it doesn't offend me at all... quite the contrary. People that wear U.S. Flag shirts wear them because they are proud to be Americans. Honestly, what is wrong with that, in your opinion?

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:38 am

I think they are tacky looking is my only problem. Of course, I'm not a hick, I'm just surrounded by them.

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:44 am

The Kizzy wrote:I think they are tacky looking is my only problem. Of course, I'm not a hick, I'm just surrounded by them.

I think it's tacky too, but I'm definitely not offended by it.

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:49 am

agree

Tuggan · Post by **Tuggan** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:04 am

Narrock wrote:
The Kizzy wrote:I think they are tacky looking is my only problem. Of course, I'm not a hick, I'm just surrounded by them.

I think it's tacky too, but I'm definitely not offended by it.

and im not offended by people burning an american flag, so i guess it doesnt need to be made into a law.

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:14 am

A shirt and the flag are 2 diffrent things silly

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:18 am

You dont count

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:23 am

You dont fuckin count. Might be able to type better than me bitch but your still a dipshit ( just like people think i am)

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:26 am

I was talking to Tuggan. :asshole:

Tuggan · Post by **Tuggan** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:26 am

The Kizzy wrote:You dont count

I know, only the people with ZERO concept on what this country is/was supposed to be about count these days. Its a disgrace.

KILL · Post by **KILL** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:39 am

Narrock wrote:
KILL wrote:this is a much worse crime imo

Why? Not that I'd wear a shirt like that, but it doesn't offend me at all... quite the contrary. People that wear U.S. Flag shirts wear them because they are proud to be Americans. Honestly, what is wrong with that, in your opinion?

it was a jab at goofy rednecks man - the same type of people that support a trivial amendment like this.

first and foremost, that flag should symbolize freedom. a constitutional amendment making burning it illegal, whether i agree with it or not, just doesnt strike me as being free.

Phlegm · Post by **Phlegm** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:48 am

The Kizzy wrote:Of course, I'm not a hick, I'm just surrounded by them.

Isn't this what every hick says?

dammuzis · Post by **dammuzis** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:01 pm

actually to many that shirt would ALSO be a desicration of the flag

whats next? no longer pwning the pres on saturday night live? cant protest war?

patriotism is all well and good but anythign that steps on free speach is bad mmkay

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:14 pm

Burning a flag is not "free speech." You can still say whatever you want. Burning the U.S. flag is an act, not a mode of speech. The only time a U.S. Flag should be burned is if it accidentally touches the ground.

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:14 pm

I see it like uzi but i bet a lot of people would like it that way

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:18 pm

If you feel your country is totally fucking up and you stage a protest and burn the flag saying HEY IM REALLY MAD ( cuz for some reason burning the flag gets peoples goat) why do you feel that is so wrong ?

Eziekial · Post by **Eziekial** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:19 pm

You know what bothers me. People who think they need the government to make laws like this to prove a point. If you don't like someone burning the flag, then say something about it. Knock their teeth out and piss on them, whatever but don't go lobby congress to fight for you. If you want to defend the flag, then do so but don't force someone else to do it for you.

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:20 pm

Because the flag doesn't favor either side of the political fence. If you're mad at current policy, burn a picture of your most hated political figure who is supporting what you're against personally. Somebody mentioned that earlier. It makes sense.

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:21 pm

Lol someone on the nt knocking someones teeth out LOL. I know theres a few fellas on nt that might whup someones ass but the overall feeling i get from this board is that everyones afraid of getting hurt or sued.

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:22 pm

Eziekial wrote:You know what bothers me. People who think they need the government to make laws like this to prove a point. If you don't like someone burning the flag, then say something about it. Knock their teeth out and piss on them, whatever but don't go lobby congress to fight for you. If you want to defend the flag, then do so but don't force someone else to do it for you.

Knocking somebody's teeth out and pissing on them (although you may feel like doing it) for having an opposing viewpoint isn't the civil thing to do either. I fully support this new amendment. The U.S. flag is sacred in a way. That's how I feel about it.

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:23 pm

how bout flying it upside down do you think people should get in trubble for that too ??

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:25 pm

Like he said do your own fighting dont make the government do it for you.... Its not sacred its cloth. That flag doesnt mean freedom to me anymore i dont see it as sacred so your wrong dude.