Hey Garg, this post is for you

[Spazz]

Also, one of the underlying assumptions behind affermative action type programs is that social background matters when it comes to achieving opportunities. The idea being that a black kid from Watts or Compton may be as smart or smarter than a given white kid from Beverly Hills, but won't score as well on standardized tests or get the same grades, due to lousy teachers/schools/nutrition/etc and so has a lower chance of getting into a good college than the white kid. So, is it appropriate to give some weighting based on background, to even up the disparity that that kid has no control over?

No arlos thats not ok. While your helping lil tyrone out your doing it at lil billies expense. It sucks that the lil black kid grew up somewhere shitty but someone else shouldnt be punished becuase of this.

[Phlegm]

Why don't they get the slaveowners' descendants to pay the reparation.

[Gargamellow]

Arlos is making a fuck of a lot of sense today.

And reparations will neverr be paid, anyway. It was only my opinion that they should be; never a real issue.

[Spazz]

Why do you think reperations should be paid? And to who ? All black people? I think your logic is a little off tonight hun. Why should anyone who never had anything to do with slavery in the lsightest give money to someone who also had nothing to with slavery ?

[Ginzburgh]

Garg, why do you even post here? 99.9% of us think you're retarded.

[Dylan]

Before we argue all day about racism, slavery, and the poverty level in the US, please visit this website and review the documents.

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/ ... es_wealth/

I looked at almost every single chart on there and look at that, white families hold a higher percentage of the families that are at or below the poverty level. So, care to explain to me that black people are worse off?

Fuck you, white devil! That's how!

[DESX]

[Gaazy]

whos the .1% Ginz?

[Zanchief]

My brother took the firefighter test in a big city in connecticut. Out of 1,500 guys he scored in the top 200 and guys that were black that were scoring 800+ were getting the job over him.

Your brother is a fucking liar.

This is the damn if you do damned if you don't attitude that I hate so much.

You see a successful black man and it's because of affirmative action, no way he got there on his own. You see an unsuccessful black man and you curse him for being a sponge.

This is why the black community has to try twice as hard to get where they are. Perception like this is why affirmative action exists.

[Spazz]

I like garg but it looks like she took her tard pills this afternoon.

[Ginzburgh]

whos the .1% Ginz?

I was being generous.

[Ginzburgh]

Your brother is a fucking liar.

This is the damn if you do damned if you don't attitude that I hate so much.

You see a successful black man and it's because of affirmative action, no way he got there on his own. You see an unsuccessful black man and you curse him for being a sponge.

This is why the black community has to try twice as hard to get where they are. Perception like this is why affirmative action exists.

Actually, it was documented in the Connecticut Post in about a dozen different articles about four years ago.

[Gaazy]

This afternoon? Jesus, Ive never had anything against the girl, but damn lately she must have been OD'in on those godamn things

[Zanchief]

You can provide a link of course.

Also, I bet every white kid score well over 1000+ right? Because there couldn't have been other criteria aside from test scores.

[Gargamellow]

I think Paul rocks for reading all of that stuff.

I can't know everything. I only know that there is a serious problem in this country right now and people think that racism is dead. Well, it isn't. I know that our generations are better at dealing with this kind of shit. The newer generations are even more evolved thinkers than we are. And thank the gods for that. Well, except Dylan, the racial gay man. (Just poking fun at you, kid)

Anyway, I only wish to convey that some things still need changing. I know things are getting better.

Some things still need changing.

I just got bummed out irl so I am not going to be able to argue very well for a while.

[Ginzburgh]

You can provide a link of course.

Also, I bet every white kid score well over 1000+ right? Because there couldn't have been other criteria aside from test scores.

It was a big deal back in 2002. The original article link is broken but excerpts from the article can be found here.

http://www.adversity.net/policefire_1_c ... port101502

The reason everyone was flipping out was, during a big affirmative action uprising in connecticut, the firefighter test was modified from a numbered score to "pass/fail". People that were scoring drastically better than another person were being denied the job because connecticut was forced to fill a minority quota. They new the only way they could fill the quota was to make the test pass/fail.

[Jay]

I think Paul rocks for reading all of that stuff.

I can't know everything. I only know that there is a serious problem in this country right now and people think that racism is dead. Well, it isn't. I know that our generations are better at dealing with this kind of shit. The newer generations are even more evolved thinkers than we are. And thank the gods for that. Well, except Dylan, the racial gay man. (Just poking fun at you, kid)

Anyway, I only wish to convey that some things still need changing. I know things are getting better.

Some things still need changing.

I just got bummed out irl so I am not going to be able to argue very well for a while.

You're lecturing 8th grade shit to a board full of adults. Everyone here knows racism exists. I live with racism. I'm saying it's not as bad as you make it out to be for 1, and 2, there's bigger problems out there. Any reparation or extra government assistance (which would apply more to a black person than a white) is enabling black people to transform into lazy niggers. I've seen people line up at the welfare office excited for their free handout. I've also seen poor black people who rise up and ignore racial pressures to make something of themselves.

To summarize Morgan Freeman, racism wouldn't exist as much if we'd "shut the fuck up you stupid motherfuckers" about it. Ignoring a problem won't make it go away, but what's the use of a stupid nigger in compton stoned off his ass that has a criminal rapsheet as long as a black cock demanding racial respect as opposed to a black man from the same area who struggled and busted his ass, got an education and a decent job wanting the same thing. Accountability rests on every person's shoulders. It's not impossible to succeed through racism. It's not even that hard to succeed through it, but yeah, it would be nice if racism wasn't there either.

[Ginzburgh]

think Paul rocks for reading all of that stuff.

I can't know everything. I only know that there is a serious problem in this country right now and people think that racism is dead. Well, it isn't. I know that our generations are better at dealing with this kind of shit. The newer generations are even more evolved thinkers than we are. And thank the gods for that. Well, except Dylan, the racial gay man. (Just poking fun at you, kid)

Anyway, I only wish to convey that some things still need changing. I know things are getting better.

Some things still need changing.

I just got bummed out irl so I am not going to be able to argue very well for a while.

You're so fucking stupid. You make fun of us for not having the "capacity to do our own research and read the statistics for ourselves". Then, when someone points out that the statistics contradict your statement, you say "I can't know everything".

Correction, you know nothing. Kill yourself.

[Mop]

What are you doing to help change those things - outside of reading books and talking on the internet?

Seriously if you care that much about changing things then get out there, it's a 10000 times more productive than arguing with cuntflaps like me on the internet.

[Gargamellow]

please.....spare me the psychobabble of morgan freeman

[Ginzburgh]

You are so Mindia.

[Zanchief]

Don't you dare rag on the freeman.

[Jay]

The point is, people shouldn't blame racism for being failures in life. Sadly Garg, you're white, so you really don't have an excuse.

[Ginzburgh]

WHITE POWER!

[Gargamellow]

I am human, and I have every right to care about any group of my fellow humans as I wish.

I sit he and post on NT. I love the NT community. It is a fun group of people. Some people think the NT is full of morons. I don't care what people think, so here I sit.

I can help whoever I want.