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by **legeriun** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:47 am

personally i think that god wants everyone to be gay, because since we all have original sin in us, propogating the human race is evil. So making babies is evil, and being gay is right. Also, im sure the planet would fucking love it if we all died off, and god created the planet, so ...

Plus, being gay is the only way to keep our future selves from coming back in time to take over southpark.

by **Adivina** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:51 am

They took our durrrbbs!

by **veeneedefeesh** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:36 am

ralfmacchio wrote:el oh el.. i wonder what would happen if two women got legally married... How would they get divorced? They can't both take 75 percent of the other's possessions?!

LOL so true. It's mathematically impossible for lesbians to marry.

There was a little thing in the early days of America that people termed the "seperation of Church and State" It seems to me we are getting awfully close to the re-integration of Church and State. Legislating morallity is idiotic at best and castostrphic at worst. If we keep this up we might find ourselves the victim of a good solid stoning (or we could bring back the practice of crucifixion if Dubya would like) just because we ate meat on friday between Mardi Gras and Easter. That is after all a cardinal sin in the eyes of many catholics.

How I feel about gays is rather hypocritical in even my own eyes. Gay women I totally empathize with, the female form is afterall a beautiful thing, I can understand completely why a woman would be attracted to another woman. Hell I am attracted to most women myself. Seeing two women having sex (up close and in person) would fulfill one of my life-long fantasies. The very thought of two men having sex repulses me. I know some gay men, I even have a cousin who is gay, as long as they dont rub their sexuality in my face (figuratively speaking) I dont care one way or the other. but seeing two men making out would probably make me puke.

Now do I believe that no one, myself included, should have to right to dictate what someone does in their own bedroom as long as no one is being forced and all parties are above the age of consent, and even that I am a little wishy washy on because "age of consent" varies by country. Do Japanese children physically mature faster than American children? I somehow doubt it. Should we prosecute our grandparents for getting married before their 16th birthdays? but I digress.

Marrige is a LEGAL institution. It allows people to legally share possessions (and conversely take those possessions away should the relatrionship dissolve) It has very little to do with morality.

Zanchief --- who the fuck died and made you NT's version of Jimmy Swaggart? I do however have a couple of serious questions for you.

1.) Do you feel that female gay people are as offensive as male gay people? Have you ever watched lesbo pr0n? did it make you randy? If so do you believe you are going to hell because of it? If it didnt turn you on, then that leads me to the obvious question WTF is wrong with you? are you so morally uptight that the sight of two beautiful women stroking and caressing each other in an obvious sexual manner did not arouse you, or are you jsut so prudish that you dont think you could handle two women at once?

2.) If God is perfect and He created all things (remember Satan is evil and cant create, only destroy or pervert) then do you think He created gays? If He is perfect why would He create imperfect beings (or worse yet abominations)? Do you think that maybe God is a sadist who created us all to torment with temptation and sin, and that we should destroy each other in a fit of moral righteousness? I would like to pre-emptively address your reply that Satan perverted hetero's and made homo's, but if that is the case then why would He allow us to be succeptable to that type of perversion if it was indeed such an abomination. Again this points to the idea that God is the Ultimate Sadist. I personally DONT think God is a sadist, I believe that God is alot more tolerant than His followers would have you believe. If not, well I'm sure we all are gonna roast because I can say with complete certainty that no one who will be reading this post is without sin.

3.) Does God talk to you personally and impart His wisdom directly to your ear? Are you absolutely certain that homosexuals are an abomination? Are you wise enough to comprehend His grande scheme? Are you absolutely sure that He doesn't has Plans for homosexuals? (other than the obvious crap I'm sure you are going to spout about "send them to Hell")

by **Spazz** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:49 am

How I feel about gays is rather hypocritical in even my own eyes. Gay women I totally empathize with, the female form is afterall a beautiful thing, I can understand completely why a woman would be attracted to another woman. Hell I am attracted to most women myself. Seeing two women having sex (up close and in person) would fulfill one of my life-long fantasies. The very thought of two men having sex repulses me. I know some gay men, I even have a cousin who is gay, as long as they dont rub their sexuality in my face (figuratively speaking) I dont care one way or the other. but seeing two men making out would probably make me puke.

Your a fucking idiot.

by **Tossica** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:55 am

Zanchief make funny. Veenee not laugh.

by **Zanchief** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:08 pm

veeneedefeesh wrote:1.) Do you feel that female gay people are as offensive as male gay people? Have you ever watched lesbo pr0n? did it make you randy? If so do you believe you are going to hell because of it? If it didnt turn you on, then that leads me to the obvious question WTF is wrong with you? are you so morally uptight that the sight of two beautiful women stroking and caressing each other in an obvious sexual manner did not arouse you, or are you jsut so prudish that you dont think you could handle two women at once?

I have watched a lot of lesbian porn, but that was before I found Jesus. Now I pray for his forgiveness. Maybe you should too if you want to get to Heaven.

veeneedefeesh wrote:2.) If God is perfect and He created all things (remember Satan is evil and cant create, only destroy or pervert) then do you think He created gays? If He is perfect why would He create imperfect beings (or worse yet abominations)? Do you think that maybe God is a sadist who created us all to torment with temptation and sin, and that we should destroy each other in a fit of moral righteousness? I would like to pre-emptively address your reply that Satan perverted hetero's and made homo's, but if that is the case then why would He allow us to be succeptable to that type of perversion if it was indeed such an abomination. Again this points to the idea that God is the Ultimate Sadist. I personally DONT think God is a sadist, I believe that God is alot more tolerant than His followers would have you believe. If not, well I'm sure we all are gonna roast because I can say with complete certainty that no one who will be reading this post is without sin.

God gave us free will, so gays are just people without morals who have decided to live a life of debauchery and sin. They are an abomination.

veeneedefeesh wrote:3.) Does God talk to you personally and impart His wisdom directly to your ear? Are you absolutely certain that homosexuals are an abomination? Are you wise enough to comprehend His grande scheme? Are you absolutely sure that He doesn't has Plans for homosexuals? (other than the obvious crap I'm sure you are going to spout about "send them to Hell")

I speak with God regularly, he seems like a nice enough guy. He told us in his own words (the bible) that he hates gays, what more do you want?

by **vonkaar** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:11 pm

Zanchief is the new pink.

by **Tossica** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:11 pm

Praise the lord! Zanchief has been infused with the spirit of JESUS!

by **Adivina** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:21 pm

Toss just made me el oh el for true

by **Spacewoman Spiff** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 1:04 pm

1. Jesus is a zombie. I fucking hate zombies, so I don't believe that I'll be taking my moral ques from him.

2. God told us nothing through the bible. Prejudiced, agenda having men did.

3. Who the fuck cares if YOU think it's morally reprehensible for two fags to get married? Are you the moral compass we as Americans should be watching? I fully expect the answer to that question to be yes, by the way. However, other people on this board and in this country have different morals and also fully believe that they should be the compasses used. Everybody thinks they're righteous. The bottom line is, if you disagree, fine. But live and let live. Two gay people getting married does absolutely nothing to affect you or what you believe or your chances of winning a spot in Heaven. So stfu already.

by **Captain Insano** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 1:22 pm

Zanchief wrote:
veeneedefeesh wrote:1.) Do you feel that female gay people are as offensive as male gay people? Have you ever watched lesbo pr0n? did it make you randy? If so do you believe you are going to hell because of it? If it didnt turn you on, then that leads me to the obvious question WTF is wrong with you? are you so morally uptight that the sight of two beautiful women stroking and caressing each other in an obvious sexual manner did not arouse you, or are you jsut so prudish that you dont think you could handle two women at once?

I have watched a lot of lesbian porn, but that was before I found Jesus.

YOU SAW JESUS IN A PORNO?!!!!!11 trippy shit man... trippy

by **Zanchief** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:10 pm

Lourdes wrote:1. Jesus is a zombie. I fucking hate zombies, so I don't believe that I'll be taking my moral ques from him.

Jesus is not a zombie. He is our savior.

Lourdes wrote:2. God told us nothing through the bible. Prejudiced, agenda having men did.

Sorry missy, but the bible is the word of God, period.

Lourdes wrote:3. Who the fuck cares if YOU think it's morally reprehensible for two fags to get married? Are you the moral compass we as Americans should be watching? I fully expect the answer to that question to be yes, by the way. However, other people on this board and in this country have different morals and also fully believe that they should be the compasses used. Everybody thinks they're righteous. The bottom line is, if you disagree, fine. But live and let live.

I don't think it's morally reprehensible, God does. I do think I am more righteous than most Americans, but that is because I am filled with the love of Jesus and he guides me.

Lourdes wrote:Two gay people getting married does absolutely nothing to affect you or what you believe or your chances of winning a spot in Heaven.

The problem is the liberal agenda is pushing gays on us all the time. I remember when prime time was family programming, now it's filled with Will & Grace and Queer Eye for the Straight guy, basically telling MY kids that it is OK to be gay when Jesus says otherwise. It has to STOP!

Lourdes wrote:So stfu already.

That's not very Christian of you.

by **vonkaar** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:13 pm

I really think that I'm the only person here that realizes that Zanchief is being facetious.

by **Zanchief** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:16 pm

veeneedefeesh wrote:Zanchief --- who the fuck died and made you NT's version of Jimmy Swaggart?

You may have heard of him. He's a fellow named Jesus.

by **Spazz** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:16 pm

Ive been on to him the whole time meng.

by **Tossica** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:18 pm

Tossica wrote:Zanchief make funny. Veenee not laugh.

by **Spacewoman Spiff** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:27 pm

Zanchief, I tried. You were attempting to play Mindia and I was attempting to rise to bait just like old times... but alas. You sir, are no Mindia.

Take that as a compliment.

You need to hate more, and tell me that you wish my parents die, or something.

by **Zanchief** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:29 pm

Your parents should die for raising a godless slut.

by **Tossica** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:31 pm

Mmmmm.... I love me some godless sluts!

by **labbats** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:34 pm

Zanchief wrote:I speak with God regularly, he seems like a nice enough guy. He told us in his own words (the bible) that he hates gays, what more do you want?

Quote me line for line in the bible where it says that.

Who cares if a person who was born gay (by God) wants to marry and have a committed relationship with another person. Quit attaching your own homophobic fears into it and let people be happy.

by **vonkaar** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:36 pm

Don't open up the 'born gay' can of worms. That's a tough one to argue.

by **Zanchief** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:38 pm

labbats wrote:Quote me line for line in the bible where it says that.

Who cares if a person who was born gay (by God) wants to marry and have a committed relationship with another person. Quit attaching your own homophobic fears into it and let people be happy.

Oh I don't know, it's somewhere in the back. But I assure you it's true, I discussed it just the other day in my church group.

labbats wrote:Who cares if a person who was born gay (by God) wants to marry and have a committed relationship with another person.

Who cares? Jesus, for one.

labbats wrote:Quit attaching your own homophobic fears into it and let people be happy.

The only man I love enough to be gay is Jesus.

by **Spacewoman Spiff** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:42 pm

*giggle*

by **veeneedefeesh** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:43 pm

Tossica wrote:Mmmmm.... I love me some godless sluts!

WOOT! much agreement

Sorry Zan, I guess I let my fingers start walking before my brain started running. It never occured to me that you were joking. At any rate my apologies for thinking you were making a "closeminded, moral majority, push your ideals and values on me, because you obviously know what is good for me better than I do" response. I get a little touchy when someone tries to force their morals on me. Even when I agree with what someone is saying if they are trying to force it on me, I tend to rebel.

/shrug call it a issue with authority

Oh and Lourdes, will you rise my bait?

by **Captain Insano** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 3:28 pm

Zanchief wrote:
labbats wrote:Quote me line for line in the bible where it says that.

Who cares if a person who was born gay (by God) wants to marry and have a committed relationship with another person. Quit attaching your own homophobic fears into it and let people be happy.

Oh I don't know, it's somewhere in the back. But I assure you it's true, I discussed it just the other day in my church group.

labbats wrote:Who cares if a person who was born gay (by God) wants to marry and have a committed relationship with another person.

Who cares? Jesus, for one.

labbats wrote:Quit attaching your own homophobic fears into it and let people be happy.

The only man I love enough to be gay is Jesus.

hahahah the last comment was great.

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