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Evermore · Post by **Evermore** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:28 am

"There is no racial bigotry here! I do not look down on niggers, kikes, wops or greasers. Here you are all equally worthless! And my orders are to weed out all non-hackers who do not pack the gear to serve in my beloved Corps! Do you maggots understand that?"

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:50 am

Zanchief wrote: If you really were comfortable with your tolerance you could let go of this petty argument.

odd I was thinking the same thing. I just do not like being labeled as something I do not believe I am. If you want say I am prejudiced about certain parts of certain races fine. But to say I totally hate a specific race is extreme. I spent 4 years on a submarine where just about every race and culture was shown. Muslim,(yes we had 3) Jew(quite a few), Hispanic, black Caucasian, Eurasian, one Cuban one Malyasian, and one Samoan. I to this day consider them all brothers, and till you spend that much time wrapped up in peoples lives and their ways of life do you realize that race does not matter. Only when people do not preform to the expectations of the others in our society do you single them out.

We used slang words between us not as anything more than mocking the stereo types of those out side of our living conditions. We knew who we were and still do. I get calls and emails from some of my military buddies, racial mocking is still standard between us for the main reason that it does not matter.

I dont consider half of the shit people do or say as anything more then themselves placing stereotypes on a whole group of people. When a boom car with bling and some kid with his pants down to the crack of his ass steps out yes the phrase niggered up is one that I use. Not because I am racist but because that is a term for it.

Just as when I see some white trash kid in a ford pinto and spinners is all wiggered up.

kinghooter00 · Post by **kinghooter00** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:28 pm

Evermore wrote:"There is no racial bigotry here! I do not look down on niggers, kikes, wops or greasers. Here you are all equally worthless! And my orders are to weed out all non-hackers who do not pack the gear to serve in my beloved Corps! Do you maggots understand that?"

... for now on your name is snowball, do you like that name, scumbag???

Ginzburgh · Post by **Ginzburgh** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:38 pm

I WILL P.T. YOU ALL UNTIL YOU FUCKIN DIE!

Snero · Post by **Snero** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:18 pm

kahar, if you believe you are not a racist, and you don't want people to think that of you, one suggestion would be to remove terms like "niggered up" from your vocabulary. Even if you think thats a term for something, I can assure you that belief is not universal

Post by **Arlos** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:26 pm

He might also want to refrain from referring to all arabs, regardless of their affiliation with terrorist organizations or anything else illegal as "Towelheads".

-Arlos

Ginzburgh · Post by **Ginzburgh** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:28 pm

Well, in Kahar's defense, they DO where towels on their heads. At least the ones I've seen in South Park.

Gypsiyee · Post by **Gypsiyee** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:42 pm

Ginzburgh · Post by **Ginzburgh** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:49 pm

But seriously guys, take it easy with the towelhead comments, my mom is persian.

Gypsiyee · Post by **Gypsiyee** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:56 pm

your mom's a towelhead.

Ginzburgh · Post by **Ginzburgh** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:57 pm

omfg racist.

Gypsiyee · Post by **Gypsiyee** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:15 pm

you sneaky bastard, you edited your post!

Ginzburgh · Post by **Ginzburgh** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:22 pm

Step 1 is admitting you have a problem Gypsiyee.

Gypsiyee · Post by **Gypsiyee** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:24 pm

you make baby jesus cry.

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:24 pm

seriously I dont give a shit what you all think about what is proper and what is not.

last I checked not all arabs are muslim. there are other phrases for arabs.
so again.

You have this idea that what you consider acceptable is what should be. you place meaning on a group of words that cause them to have effect on other people.

Tags are just that. tags. Liberals in general seem to think that these words should be stricken from any record, and liberals for the most part whine bitch and moan the most. Hell I showed the thread to a female friend of mine, and for those of you that care, she is of a dark melanin content then myself. Her response is that there are two types of African Americans. one is black, the other is a nigger.

She cant really understand why such importance is played on a race that you dont belong to.
her respone was "thats why we have dumbasses like the push coalition and Al Sharpton."

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:26 pm

See here's the thing, Kahar. It doesn't matter what kind of importance YOU put on these words. You're not the one being offended.

Gypsiyee · Post by **Gypsiyee** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:26 pm

<---not liberal, voted for bush, and i agree with zan on this point so i don't think liberal or conservative is something that can be used in this particular discussion

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:28 pm

This thread screams slack jawed yokels.

Ginzburgh · Post by **Ginzburgh** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:30 pm

Hell I showed the thread to a female friend of mine, and for those of you that care, she is of a dark melanin content then myself. Her response is that there are two types of African Americans. one is black, the other is a nigger.

Hey man, I throw the word nigger around all the time. The difference between you and me is I know it's wrong and your trying to justify it. It's wrong dude, no matter how many black friends you find to say "there are two different kinds of blah blah blah" it's fucking wrong, period.

If you say "nigger" and someone says, "hey man that's not right" at least have the balls to say, "I don't give a shit" instead of going on and on about why you think it's ok.

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:32 pm

I say nigger a lot. Nigga too.

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:42 pm

its narrow mindedness. If and when it matters to bitchy and whiney people.

Words are just that, words. They only mean something when people such as your selves push those labels onto people.

20 years ago Negro was acceptable for a word for a black person. They did not care, but suddenly some nutjob that thought the word was bad became offensive. And all of the sudden use that word in Cabrini Green or Queens and you will get shot.

You place meanings on words that dont need to be worried about.

You know i have been called Mick a few times in my life, however I dont take offense. Nor will I give offense to someone who calls me that. Why because it is just a word.

When you people stop placing high end stress labels on anyone and everything then perhaps we can move on.

FYI most Irishman in ireland dont give a rats ass about being called a mick even though it has been a slang label for us for centuries. Why is that? I could give a few reasons but I doubt neither side will see eye to eye on this.

Indians take offense to being called indians. They prefer being called by their tribe name. that has not changed, however people like you still do it. Can you tell the difference between one trib and the next? Prolly not.

When you ask most indians what nationality they are most will say "I am Blackfoot' or I am "Comanche' they dont say. Im an indian. however the term indian is offensive to most of them but you still do it.

Post by **Arlos** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:49 pm

Depends on the person. I had a professor not long ago for a history class who was from the Arapaho tribe. He said his preference was for American Indian. Said that was especially the preference for use in legal cases, as there was a definite subconscious advantage to being referred to as an "American-something". So, dislike for the term "Indian" is hardly universal.

I can also assure you that the friends I have who happen to be arab or persian would be pretty offended at being referred to as "A Towelhead".

-Arlos

Ginzburgh · Post by **Ginzburgh** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:49 pm

You know i have been called Mick a few times in my life, however I dont take offense. Nor will I give offense to someone who calls me that. Why because it is just a word.

So are you saying the word "mick" to an irishman is as offensive as the word "nigger" to a black person? Because if that is what you are saying, you have a very warped sense of reality. There is no tap-dancing around the word nigger, it's socially unacceptable. You can't change that, you can't change society's point of view on that so either conform or be viewed as an asshole.

Haylo · Post by **Haylo** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:01 pm

I think this is a major case of "If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck....". You admit to regularly using slurs for people based on the actions of some of those people. No one in this thread could honestly say they have never thought of a racial slur when someone of a certain race did/said/whatever something that they didn't like. The difference is Kahar you seem to not mind making and vocalizing snap judgments and decisions based solely on race. If I see a kid with his pants hanging down and acting like a fool, I will probably say, jesus he looks like a fool. You would say he looks niggered up. See the difference here?

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:03 pm

Ginzburgh wrote:
You know i have been called Mick a few times in my life, however I dont take offense. Nor will I give offense to someone who calls me that. Why because it is just a word.

So are you saying the word "mick" to an irishman is as offensive as the word "nigger" to a black person? Because if that is what you are saying, you have a very warped sense of reality. There is no tap-dancing around the word nigger, it's socially unacceptable. You can't change that, you can't change society's point of view on that so either conform or be viewed as an asshole.

It's still a fucking word. It is the equivalent and the fact one is acceptable whereas one is not, is absurd.