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Martrae wrote:And Paul
you're bad as the MSM
Lyion wrote:Martrae wrote:And Paul
you're bad as the MSM
The pain!
My bad.
On the democratic side, it's down to Hillary, Barack, and Mike, also, I guess.
Arlos wrote:I must admit that while Paul IS staying in the race, he hasn't exactly been ringing up tons of delegates. What's his best showings so far? A pair of 2nd places?
I hate to be the voice of realism here, as I realize how much y'all like him, but it'd take a miracle, like him winning pretty much every state from here on out (which ain't gonna happen) for him to take the nomination. I just don't see it happening, I'm sorry. (and do remember that while he's not MY candidate of choice, I DO like him better than McCain or Huckabee, so I'd LIKE to see him do well, he just hasn't been.)
-Arlos
Kramer wrote:huckabee should never be president.
Tossica wrote:Kramer wrote:huckabee should never be president.
What kind of knuckle dragger would vote for that guy? WTF?
Arlos wrote:I could vote for Obama quite happily, actually.
Mindia, you do know he is not now, nor has he ever been Muslim. His father was, but Barack himself is quite staunchly Christian, and has actually written a book about the importance of people not abandoning faith. Now, I realize he differs from you on a lot of social issues, but you must be aware that your views are hardly universal, even among all Christians.
What I like about him is that he's had the courage to actually tell people the truth, even if it's something they don't want to hear. Like when he told an audience in Detroit that America's future depended on getting away from our dependence on oil and move to alternate fuels.
Also, he isn't promising to go out and fix things himself, or promising that if he's elected everything will be easy. Instead, he is appealing to this country's great spirit of idealism, and promising to help everyone to work on fixing things together. Very much a "ask not what this country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" type of attitude, which I think is a very very refreshing change from generations of politicians.
I know you and he will never agree on things like abortion, etc. but I think you're being overly unfair in your categorization of the man, and encourage you to actually look at what he's saying and what he stands for, and not just listen to the blathering of people like Rush, Coulter, etc. about him. I think you'll find he's nothing like the demon you're painting him to be.
Now, Hillary, I'm not even going to get into, as I have my own reservations about her. So, think whatever you might wish about her. But Obama I think you've got all wrong. Sure disagree on social matters, but I think you'll find you may not be that far apart from him on other areas.
-Arlos
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