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Zanchief and/or Tikker

Postby Lueyen » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:47 am

Raymond S. Kraft wrote:The history of the world is the history of civilizational clashes, cultural clashes. All wars are about ideas, ideas about what society and civilization should be like, and the most determined always win.

Those who are willing to be the most ruthless always win. The pacifists always lose, because the anti-pacifists kill them.
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Re: Zanchief and/or Tikker

Postby Zanchief » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:55 am

I hadn't. I don't know what my reaction is yet, since the details are pretty vague. My first thought was of Katrina. Our troops were ready to help before Bush called them away because he wanted to make sure he blundered it himself.
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Re: Zanchief and/or Tikker

Postby Gypsiyee » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:20 am

Just from the article, it sure sounds like a pretty bunk deal on both sides - I'm sure there are lots of details involved that aren't discussed there, but it just sounds like bad news bears to me overall. I think it opens Canada up to threats that don't concern them (hell, they don't even concern us) because on the surface it sounds like forging an alliance, even if it just for civil matters. I mean what's going to be considered a civil matter?

I think Canada overall has a pretty good gig going; I've always said they're pretty much the answer to the world - no one messes with Canada because they don't mess with anyone. I don't see why anyone would want to alter that. Granted I'm no canadian government pro and certainly don't know all the details of this particular agreement~
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Re: Zanchief and/or Tikker

Postby Zanchief » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:21 am

Just to clarify, we do mess with people from time to time, we just don't start the fight.
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Re: Zanchief and/or Tikker

Postby Gypsiyee » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:36 am

technicalities, don't tear apart the gist!
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Re: Zanchief and/or Tikker

Postby Minrott » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:52 pm

On right-wing blogs in the U.S. it is being used as evidence of a plan for a "North American union" where foreign troops, not bound by U.S. laws, could be used by the American federal government to override local authorities.

"Co-operative militaries on Home Soil!" notes one website. "The next time your town has a 'national emergency,' don't be surprised if Canadian soldiers respond. And remember - Canadian military aren't bound by posse comitatus."


But I guess I'd rather have Canadians mucking about than blue helmets.
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Re: Zanchief and/or Tikker

Postby Durothil Skyreaver » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:59 pm

Gypsiyee wrote:I think Canada overall has a pretty good gig going; I've always said they're pretty much the answer to the world - no one messes with Canada because they don't mess with anyone.


Wouldn't it funny if out of the blue we invaded some country.
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Re: Zanchief and/or Tikker

Postby Tikker » Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:27 pm

Minrott wrote:
On right-wing blogs in the U.S. it is being used as evidence of a plan for a "North American union" where foreign troops, not bound by U.S. laws, could be used by the American federal government to override local authorities.

"Co-operative militaries on Home Soil!" notes one website. "The next time your town has a 'national emergency,' don't be surprised if Canadian soldiers respond. And remember - Canadian military aren't bound by posse comitatus."


But I guess I'd rather have Canadians mucking about than blue helmets.



most of the blue helmets that actually do anything are Canadian, anyway


I personally think it's not a good idea. I know that I'm just shocked the USA would write in specifically a provision for oil pipelines
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Re: Zanchief and/or Tikker

Postby Gypsiyee » Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:10 am

Tikker wrote: I know that I'm just shocked the USA would write in specifically a provision for oil pipelines


really? You're actually shocked about that?.. I'm actually shocked that you're shocked ><
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Re: Zanchief and/or Tikker

Postby Tikker » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:18 pm

your sarcasm meter is broken I guess
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Re: Zanchief and/or Tikker

Postby Gypsiyee » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:53 am

tone is lost through text, that's why I was shocked!
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