heading to cali

[Nusk]

ill be in Manteca visiting my brother in the next week or so (depending on when the cows finish calving). looking forward to the trip anything to do in the area for those that live there?

[Jay]

Central Valley is the armpit of CA. If you go an hour west you'll be around San Francisco and there's tons to do there.

[Nusk]

i arrived today. holy shit this place is just one cookie cutter strip mall after another broken up by craptastic houses

[Arlos]

Yeah, that's the central valley for you. Just think, places like Bakersfield are worse. As Jay said though, if you can take the time to drive into the bay area proper, and head into SF, Berkeley, or even down south to Santa Cruz, you'll find it's verrrry different.

-Arlos

[Jay]

Yeah, San Fran is a lot of fun. Berkeley has the Gourmet Ghetto which several blocks of just amazing food (Sushi in particular is my favorite there). Sacramento and Davis have some nice places to hang out as well and if you go further into the east bay, Walnut Creek is sexy. Further south there's Daly City which has a poker room that Phil Hellmuth plays at regularly and San Jose/Gilroy has a very happenin Chinatown.

[brinstar]

eat at the In & Out

everything else you can do in california is tertiary

[araby]

you and your wordz.

[Arlos]

In & Out is the best fast-food burgers around, 'tis true, but there are dedicated non-fast-food burger places with much better burgers than In & Out. The other problem with In & Out is their fries are not very good unless you get them RIGHT out of the fryer. You should consider getting them Animal style instead, they're much better that way.

Just as examples of better burger places: SF has Joe's Cable Car burger, San Jose has a place called St. John's, there's a local mini-chain in the south bay and Palo Alto called Kirk's Steakburgers, and since Jay mentioned Davis, there's a place in Davis called Murder Burger that was pretty damn awesome.

-Arlos

[Narrock]

In & Out is the best fast-food burgers around, 'tis true, but there are dedicated non-fast-food burger places with much better burgers than In & Out. The other problem with In & Out is their fries are not very good unless you get them RIGHT out of the fryer. You should consider getting them Animal style instead, they're much better that way.

Just as examples of better burger places: SF has Joe's Cable Car burger, San Jose has a place called St. John's, there's a local mini-chain in the south bay and Palo Alto called Kirk's Steakburgers, and since Jay mentioned Davis, there's a place in Davis called Murder Burger that was pretty damn awesome.

-Arlos

Have you eaten at Nation's? Nation's blows In-n-Out away.

http://www.nationsrestaurants.com/

[Nusk]

went to st johns since my friend lives in santa clara. tomorrow im meeting some people who are interested in my antique cars and getting drunk with my brother. monday is drive home

[Jennay]

I know its not close but if anyone ever finds their way to San Diego, you must try this burger joint called Hodad's in Ocean Beach.

[Arlos]

What'd you think of St. John's?

-Arlos

[KILL]

I don't get the love for In & Out. I have eaten once at 4 different locations, 3 in LA and one here in Tucson. Each time it was so disgusting I didn't finish eating. And I can stomach some pretty gnarly food too.

[Arlos]

One interesting fact about In & Out is that it is a privately held company, and the owning family are extremely devout Christians. As a result, they actually print bible verse numbers on all of their packaging. For example, if you look on the underside of the cups, you can see it printed on the inside of the bottom rim. They don't print out the whole verse, just like john 3:15 or something akin to that.

-Arlos

[Nusk]

when going to st johns dont order "large" fries

[Narrock]

One interesting fact about In & Out is that it is a privately held company, and the owning family are extremely devout Christians. As a result, they actually print bible verse numbers on all of their packaging. For example, if you look on the underside of the cups, you can see it printed on the inside of the bottom rim. They don't print out the whole verse, just like john 3:15 or something akin to that.

-Arlos

Yup, John 3:16 to be precise.

[Narrock]

What'd you think of St. John's?

-Arlos

Wort

[Arlos]

when going to st johns dont order "large" fries

I dunno, if there's 5 or 6 of you you might want to.

So what'd you think of the burger?

-Arlos

[Nusk]

it was good
its been a long ass time since i have been to california and i realize now i dont miss it at all