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by **vonkaar** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:36 pm

Apparently the accuser no longer wishses to testify.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1872740

by **Lyion** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:02 pm

Wonder how big a check she'll get in their settlement...

by **Tossica** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:04 pm

Haha. I knew he was a guilty motherfucker. Expect a massive civil settlement.

by **Atalya** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:32 am

are you stupid? He's been found not guilty. The chick was after money from the get go. Who goes and fucks her boyfriend AFTER getting raped and before going the hospital? Like she would have been way too tramautized to just go and fuck her bf on the way. This is just all her past coming out and everyone finding out how much of a fucking farce it is. There's no way a guy like kobe would have to rape her i guarantee he just says Hi and her pants are already around her ankles.

by **Lyion** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:10 am

Atalya wrote:are you stupid? He's been found not guilty. The chick was after money from the get go. Who goes and fucks her boyfriend AFTER getting raped and before going the hospital? Like she would have been way too tramautized to just go and fuck her bf on the way. This is just all her past coming out and everyone finding out how much of a fucking farce it is. There's no way a guy like kobe would have to rape her i guarantee he just says Hi and her pants are already around her ankles.

Its not like we'll ever find out if she was raped or not. The imbeciles at the court coupled with the big buck lawyers attacking the purported victim all but made it impossible.

The truth was completely lost here.

by **Zanchief** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:33 am

Atalya wrote:are you stupid? He's been found not guilty.

He hasn't been found not guilty, the charges were dropped.

by **The Kizzy** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:35 am

and they can never be undropped.

Im happy, I truly feel she was a money grubbing bitch. I hope the article is correct and she gets laughed out of civil court. I also think he should press charges against her for slander or libel whatever it is.

by **Tossica** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:32 am

He all but came out and said "sorry for raping you". He is going to be fucked in civil court. She will end up with millions.

by **Tacks** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:33 am

You're the only one who thinks this.

by **Lyion** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:34 am

Tossica wrote:He all but came out and said "sorry for raping you". He is going to be fucked in civil court. She will end up with millions.

I think he raped her, but I think it was a type of date rape..

It'll never reach Civil court if his legal team has any brains.

It'll probably be over by the end of this week, with her getting around a Mil, and disappearing

Being Kobe just signed a 120 Mil contract, I won't cry for him...

by **Mop** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:23 am

Lyion wrote:
Tossica wrote:He all but came out and said "sorry for raping you". He is going to be fucked in civil court. She will end up with millions.

I think he raped her, but I think it was a type of date rape..

It'll never reach Civil court if his legal team has any brains.

It'll probably be over by the end of this week, with her getting around a Mil, and disappearing

Being Kobe just signed a 120 Mil contract, I won't cry for him...

I think the important part we should all take away from this is

1- women are crazy

2- this women {see crazy} has probally excess of one mil in her account now

3- She likes anal

I think with these 3 facts we should not be discussing Kobe, but in turn how to get our pimp game on in CO.

by **Tossica** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:27 am

Lyion wrote:I think he raped her, but I think it was a type of date rape..

That's exactly what she said it was. They were making out, she got "scared" or whatever and tried to stop it twice. She got up to leave and he blocked the door, put his hands on her throat and bent her over a chair. He didn't beat her up or snatch her off the street or anything. He just took it farther than she wanted to go.

by **Themosticles** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:40 pm

Legal analyst Craig Silverman called the case "an unmitigated disaster for true victims of sexual assault."

This is the real problem with shit like this.

"She (the victim) assigned him (Bryant) that isolated room, she snuck away from her job to go meet with him, she engaged in expansive flirtation, she went in, showed him her intimate tattoos, engaged in intimate kissing and hugging, and when he took it further and she protested, he stopped.

"Add what we learned since about Mr. X and his DNA," Silverman said, referring to the DNA of another man found on the victim's underwear, "and you have an acquittal."

"There was a rush to arrest him (Bryant), vilify the guy, then sit back and gripe when all the facts turned out against them. The woman was not asked the tough questions. They (the prosecution) didn't want to test the scientific evidence - why? because they wouldn't like the results.

Those are exerpts from the Denver Post article.

The woman filed the civil case in Denver federal court this month, seeking at least $75,000 in damages from Bryant.

Exerpt about the civil case. It was also stated in the other Kobe thread that Colorado has a maximum dollar amount that can be awarded in cases like these. 1 million if I am remembering myself correctly. I don't feel like looking it up.

That discovery charge was the final nail in the coffin for this case, no way the prosecution could've recovered from that.

by **Atalya** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:58 pm

Themo! (psst email me jgushattey@yahoo.com) and yeah that other guy's DNA was the Mark Fuhrman (spelling?) in this trial

by **The Kizzy** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:32 pm

If I were to go on a date with a guy, and I led him on, and I didnt want it to go any further, and I said stop, and he forced himself upon me, this is what I would have done differently.

a.) not text messaged my friends (There is no factual proof this happened)

b.) Had sex with another man BEFORE reporting the rape.

by **Atalya** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 4:06 pm

yeah no shit. I mean i'm not a female or a rape specialist but i can't see someone wanting to go have more sex after being raped.

by **Tossica** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 4:30 pm

Atalya wrote:yeah no shit. I mean i'm not a female or a rape specialist but i can't see someone wanting to go have more sex after being raped.

Lots of women do it to distance themselves from the event or to try to feel some sort of emotional connection.

by **The Kizzy** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 4:58 pm

Tossica, I love you, and you know that. Nothing you say is going to turn me against Kobe Bryant and start accsuing him of rape and make sure I post in every thread about him that he is guilty, even though we are Americans and everyoe is innocent until proven guilty.

by **Zanchief** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:37 pm

Tossica wrote:Lots of women do it to distance themselves from the event or to try to feel some sort of emotional connection.

Um, yea, sure they do.

by **Harrison** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:55 pm

This stinks to high hell of a money sucking whore.

If this goes to civil court, she's going to get a counter suit for all the damage she's dont to Kobe in the form of loss of endorsements etc.

She's fucked and she knows it. She'll take the settlement and fucking be happy or be anally raped by the system for being a lying bitch.

by **Harrison** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:57 pm

This is of course IF she got a settlement from Kobe to s.t.f.u.

Even if he is right, it would be prudent for him to shell out money to tell her to keep that cock-sheath to shut.

by **Martrae** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:18 pm

From a rather long news article that rehashed everything all over again

To win the case, the woman's attorneys would have to prove by a "preponderance of the evidence" that Bryant forced himself on the woman and caused physical and emotional injury. That is, they would have to show that it was more likely than not that he committed the offense.

In a criminal case, prosecutors would have had to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, a more difficult standard.

Damages for pain and suffering and other non-economic losses in Colorado civil cases generally cannot exceed $733,000, though damages for economic losses and physical impairment or disfigurement are not capped. Punitive damages cannot exceed the compensatory award and can be given only if the allegations are proved beyond a reasonable doubt.

The woman's attorneys, John Clune and Lin Wood, said Wednesday no payment was made to their client and no settlement negotiations have taken place. They were in a meeting Thursday and did not return calls.

by **Zorl** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:22 pm

I agree with Tossica on this. It's extremely common for women who have been raped to distance themselves from the event and even more common for women to simply not report the crime for fear of being labeled a whore, reliving the experience in a public forum, etc. It's also common for a woman to freeze up and not physically defend herself in a rape situation.

I think if she was actually after money, she would have continued with the trial - it's not like she didn't know he was a public figure.

I don't know the details in this case as I don't really give a fuck about sports, but the bottom line if there is even a hint about the consensuality of a sexual event, the guy better back the fuck off. I mean really, what's so hard about getting consent from somebody you're about to have sex with?

I think rapists should be publicly castrated and then force fed said parts.

And yeah, I'm sure he raped her given he all but came out and said so.

My 2cp :eyecrazy:

Z

by **Martrae** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:04 am

I love men trying to say what women do after being raped. Why don't you tell me what childbirth is like while you're at it?

She's dropped the charges but is still pursuing it in civil court. She's after the money.

by **Harrison** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:11 am

Dont have to eat shit to know what it tastes like.

Sorry I had to say it.

But I agree, she is definitely after the money. She has too much evidence against her on that point.

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