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Eziekial · Post by **Eziekial** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:20 am

Who determines need in a communist government? Because I need a vacation to Vegas with about 50k in my pocket to burn at the crap tables and pick up loose women

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:29 am

Eziekial wrote:Who determines need in a communist government? Because I need a vacation to Vegas with about 50k in my pocket to burn at the crap tables and pick up loose women

that's why communism generally doesn't work

If everyone has exactly the same ideals, and goals, it would work np

but once you have dissenting opinions, you have to have a way to settle disputes, and choose the best solution

the problem is that pretty much 100% of the time so far, someone grabs power via the barrel of a gun, and keeps it, and you end up with a dictatorship, not a communist society

Post by **Lyion** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:49 am

Thus, communism ends up being evil.

Granted thats circular logic, but it seems to always be the same circle.

Post by **Gidan** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:06 pm

lyion wrote:Thus, communism ends up being evil.

Granted thats circular logic, but it seems to always be the same circle.

History and logic rarely go hand and hand. I would say the the behvior of people rarely follows a logical path.

Post by **Lyion** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:10 pm

The result of Marxist based regimes is always the same. It's like bringing up Bush and Diekan in a thread. There is only one result.

xaoshaen · Post by **xaoshaen** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:44 pm

lyion wrote:Thus, communism ends up being evil.

Granted thats circular logic, but it seems to always be the same circle.

Except that it's not communism that ends up being evil, it's a dictatorship that may or may not be evil.

Post by **Ganzo** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:47 pm

lyion wrote:Thus, communism ends up being evil.

Granted thats circular logic, but it seems to always be the same circle.

All you doing is saying Humans are Evil by this line of logic

Post by **Lyion** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:26 pm

Maybe, Ganzo. Power corrupts. Absolute power likewise.

Thus, the best form of Government we currently have is one with checks and balances to limit it.

It's not perfect, but realistically its as good as it gets right now.

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:33 pm

lyion wrote:Maybe, Ganzo. Power corrupts. Absolute power likewise.

Thus, the best form of Government we currently have is one with checks and balances to limit it.

It's not perfect, but realistically its as good as it gets right now.

the problem I have with the current system (in canada/usa) is that lots of times it ends up a popularity contest, rather than voting for the person best suited for the job

that being said, I have no idea how to correct the situation

Post by **Gidan** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:38 pm

lyion wrote:Maybe, Ganzo. Power corrupts. Absolute power likewise.

Thus, the best form of Government we currently have is one with checks and balances to limit it.

It's not perfect, but realistically its as good as it gets right now.

So it really comes down to people are evil not communism itself.

Eziekial · Post by **Eziekial** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:19 pm

People are also good. It's a balanced thing you know.

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:19 pm

Ganzo wrote:
lyion wrote:Thus, communism ends up being evil.

Granted thats circular logic, but it seems to always be the same circle.
All you doing is saying Humans are Evil by this line of logic

I think some people are evil

apparently americans in general do as well, that was your reasoning for invading Iraq, no?

xaoshaen · Post by **xaoshaen** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:29 pm

lyion wrote:Maybe, Ganzo. Power corrupts. Absolute power likewise.

Thus, the best form of Government we currently have is one with checks and balances to limit it.

It's not perfect, but realistically its as good as it gets right now.

Like they say, our system is the worst one available except for all the others. The real genious of the U.S. Constitution is that it fundamentally assumes that humans are avaricious, power hungry bastards. Exploiting this assumption and ensuring that human greed works to benefit the system was perhaps the most significant achievement of the framers.

Post by **Lyion** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:30 pm

Nah, we needed to up military spending, project imperialism, and piss off the French. The Iraq War accomplished all three so was a resounding success.

xaoshaen · Post by **xaoshaen** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:37 pm

lyion wrote:Nah, we needed to up military spending, project imperialism, and piss off the French. The Iraq War accomplished all three so was a resounding success.

We dun it fer tha oil!

Post by **Arlos** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:41 pm

Every time I think about the war in Iraq, I can't help but remember the Dead Kennedys song, "Kinky Sex Makes the World Go Round". If you don't know it, go listen to it, and you'll understand what I'm talking about.

-Arlos

Post by **Tossica** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:44 pm

lyion wrote:Nah, we needed to up military spending, project imperialism, and piss off the French. The Iraq War accomplished all three so was a resounding success.

You say this in jest but it's pretty much spot on.

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:48 pm

You spend 400 billion on your military, you're gonna find a reason to use it.

xaoshaen · Post by **xaoshaen** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:01 pm

Tossica wrote:
lyion wrote:Nah, we needed to up military spending, project imperialism, and piss off the French. The Iraq War accomplished all three so was a resounding success.

You say this in jest but it's pretty much spot on.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:08 pm

As I told you, it would be absolutely, totally, and in all other ways inconceivable.

Post by **Tossica** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:11 pm

xaoshaen wrote:
Tossica wrote:
lyion wrote:Nah, we needed to up military spending, project imperialism, and piss off the French. The Iraq War accomplished all three so was a resounding success.

You say this in jest but it's pretty much spot on.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Uh... what word? You? Say? This? In? Jest? But? It's? Pretty? Much? Spot? On?

Which? I'm pretty sure I know what each of those words means.

xaoshaen · Post by **xaoshaen** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:12 pm

Tossica wrote:
xaoshaen wrote:
Tossica wrote:
lyion wrote:Nah, we needed to up military spending, project imperialism, and piss off the French. The Iraq War accomplished all three so was a resounding success.

You say this in jest but it's pretty much spot on.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Uh... what word? You? Say? This? In? Jest? But? It's? Pretty? Much? Spot? On?

Which? I'm pretty sure I know what each of those words means.

From the context, not so much.

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:12 pm

You're hopeless...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093779/quotes

Yamori · Post by **Yamori** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:14 pm

Arlos wrote:Every time I think about the war in Iraq, I can't help but remember the Dead Kennedys song, "Kinky Sex Makes the World Go Round". If you don't know it, go listen to it, and you'll understand what I'm talking about.

-Arlos

I like the noises the brittish prime minister makes throughout the whole thing. Funny stuff.

Dead Kennedys was really cool --- its too bad Jello Biafra was a political idiot. I can't believe I fell for that crap, lol. But hey, it helped make me much more of a free thinker, so I can't complain. *tips hat to jello*

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:17 pm

Would you like a peanut?