Vanguard

Durothil Skyreaver · Post by **Durothil Skyreaver** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:40 pm

I just uninstalled it if that is any indication.

Menlaan · Post by **Menlaan** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:48 pm

Computer issue or lack of 'fun'?

Durothil Skyreaver · Post by **Durothil Skyreaver** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:12 pm

Lack of fun at this point. It needs alot of work before I would play it. They have alot of really interesting ideas in the game but I don't think its nearly polished enough (ie I can't see it being out for 6 months+).

Rotj · Post by **Rotj** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:30 pm

just got it and downloading now.. how big is it? cos shit i've got a 170 hour estimated download atm :|

Burgy99 · Post by **Burgy99** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:35 pm

I'm curious, could you solo effectively in that game, or was there a ton of downtime ? Another big issue I have with EQ1 but liked about WoW, was the quest interface. I hate the fact anytime I want to do a quest in EQ I have to google it first or go to allakazahms.

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:08 pm

Burgy99 wrote:I'm curious, could you solo effectively in that game, or was there a ton of downtime ? Another big issue I have with EQ1 but liked about WoW, was the quest interface. I hate the fact anytime I want to do a quest in EQ I have to google it first or go to allakazahms.

if you like being spoonfed shit, with easy to follow walk thru guides, I suggest you get a lobotomy and play WoW

Vanguard will force you to actually think, and play the game, unlike WoW

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:08 pm

Rotj wrote:just got it and downloading now.. how big is it? cos shit i've got a 170 hour estimated download atm :|

some of the patches are over 7 gb

Jazendar · Post by **Jazendar** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:59 pm

wait it's in open beta? someone provide me with some info and linkz.

Post by **Lueyen** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:08 am

Ginzburgh wrote:I'm finished with WoW. I am waiting for a new game so I guess it's a toss up between Vanguard, Warhammer, Lord of the Rings.

Not sure. Anyone have any suggestions?

I'm not a huge Conan fan, but a co-worker is and has been keeping an eye on this:

http://www.ageofconan.com/conan/en/index.html

With a mature rating and some pretty graphic combat and a mature rating (one scene I watched one person beheaded another in combat complete with gratuitous blood spray) the game is being toted as an mmorpg for adults.

Combat, both Pvp and Pve sounds somewhat like the Oblivion combat style where aiming where you swing your weapon will matter ect.

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:54 am

Age of Conan sounds semi good

Burgy99 · Post by **Burgy99** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:09 am

Tikker wrote:
Burgy99 wrote:I'm curious, could you solo effectively in that game, or was there a ton of downtime ? Another big issue I have with EQ1 but liked about WoW, was the quest interface. I hate the fact anytime I want to do a quest in EQ I have to google it first or go to allakazahms.

if you like being spoonfed shit, with easy to follow walk thru guides, I suggest you get a lobotomy and play WoW

Vanguard will force you to actually think, and play the game, unlike WoW

No I don't want to be spoonfed anything, but go look at the epic quest for EQ. Some of the key words are random and theres no way in fuck you could draw them out of context with the conversation your having with that NPC.

Burgy99 · Post by **Burgy99** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:10 pm

Easier to use quest menu's would be nice. Not to the extent of "?" "!", but, keeping track of NPC's conversation with you and actually keeping it organized would be nice.

I also want to know if its soloable or you have to group, and of theres alot downtime associated with them. What sucks about WoW is that every exp mob is intended to be solable with shitty gear so with decent gear it's a snooze fest.

The entire time I played WoW I wished it was more group oriented like Everquest was.. but now that I'm back playing EQ1 most nights I get pissed off because it's harder than fuck to get a group. It's either hardcore peeps grouping only in guild, or it's absolute retards farming dain Monster Missions over, and over again. With EQ in it's current form/generation that is.

I have no clue what Vanguard is like, but an ideal MMO to me would allow you to get good experience with small groups of 2-3 people, but of course benefiting you more with a full group of 6.

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:13 pm

Burgy99 wrote:Easier to use quest menu's would be nice. Not to the extent of "?" "!", but, keeping track of NPC's conversation with you and actually keeping it organized would be nice.

I also want to know if its soloable or you have to group, and of theres alot downtime associated with them. What sucks about WoW is that every exp mob is intended to be solable with shitty gear so with decent gear it's a snooze fest.

The entire time I played WoW I wished it was more group oriented like Everquest was.. but now that I'm back playing EQ1 most nights I get pissed off because it's harder than fuck to get a group. It's either hardcore peeps grouping only in guild, or it's absolute retards farming dain Monster Missions over, and over again. With EQ in it's current form/generation that is.

I have no clue what Vanguard is like, but an ideal MMO to me would allow you to get good experience with small groups of 2-3 people, but of course benefiting you more with a full group of 6.

mechanics wise, Vanguard is pretty much exactly that

mechanics wise, it's an awesome fusion of EQ and WOW

graphically it sucks donkey balls, and it plagued by most of the same issues that EQ was

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:15 pm

well..there are people who actually learn the eq quests without the websites...I used to know a couple of them...I forget their names, though.

Burgy99 · Post by **Burgy99** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:26 pm

Thanks for the info again Tikker. Graphically with a 5k comp it looks amazing from the video's I've seen, as does Everquest2. Graphically, with my aged comp and the settings adjusted appropiately, Everquest2 looked like dog shit. I plan on buying a new comp come January, and i'm hoping that by then they will have tweaked the code even further, and the new rig will easily handle the game turned up with some room to grow, as opposed to barely being able to keep up 30-40 FPS. One can only hope I guess.

An awesome fusion of WoW and EQ makes me pretty excited :D

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:30 pm

Burgy99 wrote:
An awesome fusion of WoW and EQ makes me pretty excited :D

it's not an awesome fusion tho, that's the part you keep missing

idea/mechanic wise, it has unlimited potential

but it's already so clunky, and non-fun that most of the beta testers have given up hope

Burgy99 · Post by **Burgy99** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:37 pm

Ohhhhhhh.

oh.

oh....

<--- sad panda.

Clunky is bad. Messy / hard to use interfaces are bad....

Burgy99 · Post by **Burgy99** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:39 pm

Alot of peoples responses are to the tune of " Awesome idea's, but the game needs more time ".

Do you think theres any way possible that they could make it a "good" game by January ? How "bad" is bad I guess.

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:34 pm

Burgy99 wrote:Alot of peoples responses are to the tune of " Awesome idea's, but the game needs more time ".

Do you think theres any way possible that they could make it a "good" game by January ? How "bad" is bad I guess.

it's not bad, really

right now, it's just EQ1 with different mechanics

graphic wise, it's very Luclinish (ie very dated compared to EQ2 or WoW)

it also runs on my 6600gt like Luclin would run on a geforce2

Sithos · Post by **Sithos** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:03 pm

Yay for me and my Radeon 7500! Game would own me

Durothil Skyreaver · Post by **Durothil Skyreaver** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:18 pm

Sithos wrote:Yay for me and my Radeon 7500! Game would own me

You need a minimum of a 9600 or comparable. I believe anything lower is not supported.

Jazendar · Post by **Jazendar** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:59 pm

Bullshit on the requirements, it may not be supported but it will still play. I played my viper 64 bit when i started eq and the minimum req was 128, etc. I zoned in 5 minutes up until the end of pop until i got a new comp, but i still played.

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:00 pm

4 fps is not playable

sure it'll load, but that doesn't cut it chachi

Durothil Skyreaver · Post by **Durothil Skyreaver** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:51 pm

Jazendar wrote:Bullshit on the requirements, it may not be supported but it will still play. I played my viper 64 bit when i started eq and the minimum req was 128, etc. I zoned in 5 minutes up until the end of pop until i got a new comp, but i still played.

Well suffice it to say that if your card does not support the shader models within the game you will not even be able to launch the game at this point.

Sithos · Post by **Sithos** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:33 pm

It's time for a new system for me anyways.This one is getting a bit long in the tooth.

In another year or 2 most games wont run on my machine so I think it's high time for me to go see MDG!