In one of the most chilling public statements ever made by a U.S. Attorney General, Alberto Gonzales questioned whether the U.S. Constitution grants habeas corpus rights of a fair trial to every American.
Raymond S. Kraft wrote:The history of the world is the history of civilizational clashes, cultural clashes. All wars are about ideas, ideas about what society and civilization should be like, and the most determined always win.
Those who are willing to be the most ruthless always win. The pacifists always lose, because the anti-pacifists kill them.
I saw that, and the term "Chilling" was most apt. That man is supposedly in the highest law enforcement position in the land, and he's sitting there, straight-faced, and saying that the Constitution does *NOT* guarantee habeas corpus????? I literally was speechless. I couldn't believe he actually made that argument.
It's just further proof of what I've been saying all along: The Bush administration has no regard for the constitutionality of ANY of its positions. They are interested in one thing, and one thing only: Power. Unfortunately, they have had an extremely tame congress which abrogated its responsibilities towards checking that power, and we're going to pay for it for a long time. But ye gods, I don't think there's a rational person alive that isn't blinded by ideological factors that would accept that man's argument, and thus sweepingly deny habeus Corpus to the american public... Was glad to see Specter, a republican, just as flabbergasted as I was.
Gargamellow wrote:otherwise..you guys can argue all day long I don't care
No one in this thread was really arguing anything.
Raymond S. Kraft wrote:The history of the world is the history of civilizational clashes, cultural clashes. All wars are about ideas, ideas about what society and civilization should be like, and the most determined always win.
Those who are willing to be the most ruthless always win. The pacifists always lose, because the anti-pacifists kill them.
Gargamellow wrote:otherwise..you guys can argue all day long I don't care
No one in this thread was really arguing anything.
Yeah not seeing any arguing. I think this is actually one of the only threads where we can all agree on.
Yea that does have a habit of happening from time to time.
Raymond S. Kraft wrote:The history of the world is the history of civilizational clashes, cultural clashes. All wars are about ideas, ideas about what society and civilization should be like, and the most determined always win.
Those who are willing to be the most ruthless always win. The pacifists always lose, because the anti-pacifists kill them.
