Alito Appointment

Kramer · Post by **Kramer** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:52 am

So I find that I am annoyed with the Alito placement:

NOT because I think he is unqualified or a crakchead or anything or even because he is a strong conservative....

Primarily it is ideological... I find that having a court of seven that is equal and balanced politically and ideiologically is better than one that is skewed one way or the other.... Not perfectly but one that attempts to allow the left and right to be heard and I think the appointment of a strong conservative in the place of a judge that isn't is frustrating....

your thoughts please.

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:18 pm

Its all part of the "CONSERVITIVE AGAENDA "

I think id agree its better that it be balenced but you wouldnt expect gw to apoint someone who isnt down with views would you ?

Kramer · Post by **Kramer** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:33 pm

Not really, though I do think it would be admirable for someone to not be such a puppet and declare that they value balance rather than some thin party line when dealing with something like an appointment that would have ramifications for DECADES.

like I sadi though, it is ideological and probably not applicable in the real world unfortuneately, maybe not...

Diekan · Post by **Diekan** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:38 pm

The job of the court is to decipher the constitution and determine if various laws out of line... NOT to set political agendas. Alito is more than qualified for the job.

xaoshaen · Post by **xaoshaen** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:49 pm

boybutter wrote:So I find that I am annoyed with the Alito placement:

NOT because I think he is unqualified or a crakchead or anything or even because he is a strong conservative....

Primarily it is ideological... I find that having a court of seven that is equal and balanced politically and ideiologically is better than one that is skewed one way or the other.... Not perfectly but one that attempts to allow the left and right to be heard and I think the appointment of a strong conservative in the place of a judge that isn't is frustrating....

your thoughts please.

Why would you prefer a court of seven?

Post by **Lyion** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:50 pm

But... Alito doesn't place N.O.W. above the constitution.. Therefore, he must be bad!

I'd prefer the court interpret laws and be constitutional scholars. With Alito the court is fairly balanced with a variety of opinions that will hopefully start to erode their recent bouts of trying to override the legislative branch in a manner not befitting the judicial branch.

Kramer · Post by **Kramer** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:36 pm

um. i agree the job is not about politics and that he is qualified. i stated that in my first remark genuises. I am talking people's ideas and ways that they interpret law, world view, religious orientation, all have something to do with how they will lean.

and if you have a nation divided over an issue like abortion or whatever and you know that you can stack a court in favor of what you want or your party wants then i think that is not cool..

i know Alito is qualified. it is not about him individually. but i am sure i will still be labeled a liberal by the pseudo-intellectual militants on the board... so flame away...

dammuzis · Post by **dammuzis** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:57 pm

the constitution is NOT a living document anymore then the bible is literal

Kramer · Post by **Kramer** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:19 pm

well, there are ammendments to it and the application of the constitution must always change with the society in which it is interpreted, not necessarily to some extreme manner but it could be argued that it is "living"....

how do you define living?

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:01 pm

So do you think Kerry would appoint 3 people with different views in the Supreme Court if he were pres? :umno:

Kramer · Post by **Kramer** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:17 pm

probably not, which is why i said it is probably not realistic.... but why would it matter what Kerry would do, he isn't president :dunno:

i don't think their is some savior... i am not a freaking liberal who thinks that a politician is the answer...

i am wondering if you think it is better to have a balanced court or if it worries you that a court seems to be stacked in favor of one way of thinking as opposed to the other.... or do you think that there is nothing to worry about...

Diekan · Post by **Diekan** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:57 pm

He's doesn't have to "support" abortion through his personal views in order to bring a sense of balance to the table. Liberals don't seem to understand this.

Tuggan · Post by **Tuggan** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:50 pm

cause we all know the judges never ever bring their personal values and beliefs into their judgements. :jerkit:

there should be something that resembles balance in the supreme court, but oh well...democrats fucked it up for themselves.

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:04 pm

Will his wife cry again for us you think? That was so touching.

Diekan · Post by **Diekan** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:37 pm

Liberals 0 ; Good Guys 1

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:56 pm

Good Guys :

Bill Frist
Duke Cunningham
Scooter Libby
Jack Abramoff
Bob Ney
Tom Delay

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:59 pm

Good Guy!

Diekan · Post by **Diekan** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:23 pm

Please allow me to introduce to you the finest the left has to offer!

Damnit Alito! You're PERSONAL beliefs that killing the unborn goes completely against our beliefs... we don't care if you're qualified, or that you'll probably be straight forward and honest as a justice... we have a political agenda to push!!!!1!!11

Born 1950 in Trenton, NJ

Federal Judicial Service:
U. S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit
Nominated by George H.W. Bush on February 20, 1990, to a seat vacated by John Joseph Gibbons; Confirmed by the Senate on April 27, 1990, and received commission on April 30, 1990.

Education:
Princeton University, A.B., 1972

Yale Law School, J.D., 1975

Professional Career:
Law clerk, Hon. Leonard I. Garth, U.S. Court of Appeals, Third Circuit, 1976-1977
Assistant U.S. attorney, District of New Jersey, 1977-1981
Assistant to the U.S. solicitor general, U.S. Department of Justice, Washington, DC, 1981-1985
Deputy assistant U.S. attorney general, U.S. Department of Justice, Washington, DC, 1985-1987
U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey, 1987-1990

Race or Ethnicity: White

Gender: Male

This latest episode, or perhaps I should say meltdown of the left just cements, in my mind, that they see the Supreme Court as means to push their agenda.

Post by **Martrae** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:46 pm

Welcome to the Dark Side, Diekan.

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:52 pm

boybutter wrote:
i am wondering if you think it is better to have a balanced court or if it worries you that a court seems to be stacked in favor of one way of thinking as opposed to the other.... or do you think that there is nothing to worry about...

I want someone who will rule by the constitution. I honestly dont think there is anything to worry about with Alito. His stand points were all by rule of law not by his opinions.

What I dont like was the dog and pony show that was put on. No where in the constitution does it say they can grill some poor bastard for 1 week before voting yes or no. The supreme Court justices are picked by the president and approved by a yes or no vote. that is it.

Alito is far more middle ground then alot of the other justices that were in Bush's pick list. for the most part he is what would be considered a libertarian.

On a more humorous side note...Ole Judge Sauters house is going up for a public vote for the acquisition to be turned into a hotel. gotta love turnabouts. He spearheads iminent domain...and some smartass from CA might grab his home for' the betterment of the community" gotta love it.

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:01 pm

mofish wrote:Good Guys :

Bill Frist
Duke Cunningham
Scooter Libby
Jack Abramoff
Bob Ney
Tom Delay

lets see...

Hillary Clinton...
See the destruction of FBI files first term.

Bill Clinton
Perjury in front of the Grand Jury court. ruling in favor of a dibarrment. Only President to ever be impeached. Oh and...Jaunita Brodwick...

Ted kennedy....
Leaving the scene of a accident. Mary Joe drowned in backseat of his car. he is found by a local resident soaking wet swear he went ofr a late night swim.

Harry Reid
Requests that Bush comes clean but fails to mention about the 84 thousand dollars from Abramoff he recieved over a 10 year period.

John Kerry
80 percent of the people he serves with in the Veitnam war refuse to support his ass when he run for President. All of whom start a organization Called Swift Boat Vets against Kerry. Recieves 3 purple hearts no wounds more serious then 12 stitches. Goes home to throw his medals over the wall of the White house. Then asks for Vets of the era to support him.

bang up group of people.

Yeah Mo bang up side you support.

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:01 am

I just watched Hilary bitch about alito on TV...what a cunt.

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:40 am

Diekan wrote:Damnit Alito! You're PERSONAL beliefs that killing the unborn goes completely against our beliefs... we don't care if you're qualified, or that you'll probably be straight forward and honest as a justice... we have a political agenda to push!!!!1!!11

Who doesn't?

Phlegm · Post by **Phlegm** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:05 am

kaharthemad wrote:Bill Clinton
Perjury in front of the Grand Jury court. ruling in favor of a dibarrment. Only President to ever be impeached. Oh and...Jaunita Brodwick...

When was he impeached?

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:07 am

Phlegm wrote:
kaharthemad wrote:Bill Clinton
Perjury in front of the Grand Jury court. ruling in favor of a dibarrment. Only President to ever be impeached. Oh and...Jaunita Brodwick...

When was he impeached?

Not only that, but he's not even the only President to through the impeachment process.

Blame the public schools Kahar. That or the drugs.

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